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re: The "Coach O sucks" circlejerk is mind blowing

Posted on 11/26/16 at 5:28 pm to
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93718 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 5:28 pm to
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Just because it isn't your fault doesn't mean it isn't your responsibility.


Read that and tell me how ridiculous that statement actually is....I understand I'm in the minority, but I don't blame the coach after said responsibility is handed to the Player that has been trained and coached to do the job.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93718 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 5:30 pm to
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Irrelevant


It's irrelevant whenever it's the main argument being used against Oregeron?

Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 5:30 pm to
Again, a coach being responsible for a player error is pretty much standard protocol, isn't it? If you are in the minority opinion, I guess it's fine to agree to disagree, but the lengths to which you are going to contexualize the shortcomings is alarming.

Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
10441 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 5:31 pm to
Does it make sense to promote a DL coach over a co-ordinator? Seems a bit odd to me, Prominentwon. Does it bespeak poor planning by the AD. Did he pull the trigger prematurely. How could the school justify firing Miles to replace him with the coach of the defensive line? Makes no sense to me.

BTW I think you are among the FEW level headed persons on this site.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93718 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 5:32 pm to
Agree to disagree.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 5:32 pm to
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It's irrelevant whenever it's the main argument being used against Oregeron?



Read what he wrote. He asked me (the reader at large) to imagine me at my job ten years ago. That is an utterly irrelevant sentiment, and does nothing to further the point. It also avoids the key question that will define O's reign, which is that there is a difference between identifying mistakes at an old job and being actually able to fix them.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93718 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 5:33 pm to
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Does it make sense to promote a DL coach over a co-ordinator? Seems a bit odd to me, Prominentwon. Does it bespeak poor planning by the AD. Did he pull the trigger prematurely. How could the school justify firing Miles to replace him with the coach of the defensive line? Makes no sense to me.




Wasn't my first choice. Dabo was a year removed from being a WR coach. Hoping it turns out the same.

I'm willing to give him a chance.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123910 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 5:34 pm to
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He was also 11-4 in step up jobs without notice
How many of those wins came against favored teams?????????
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19065 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 5:35 pm to
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to not have everyone on the same page out of a TO, even if it's Guice's error, it certainly reflects back on the HC right or wrong.


I believe you must think that Guice did not know the play. That is not correct. He missed the read call on the field and went the wrong way initially and messed up the play.
Posted by sgallo3
Dorne
Member since Sep 2008
24747 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 5:39 pm to
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I believe you must think that Guice did not know the play. That is not correct. He missed the read call on the field and went the wrong way initially and messed up the play.



Yeah but who lets facts get in the way of of their agenda
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278392 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 5:41 pm to
I have been saying I'm ok with O if the big guys turn LSU down. He was my 4th or 5th choice
Posted by yimbeaux
Texas
Member since Nov 2014
1856 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 5:44 pm to
as opposed to doing what, spout negativity on a message board?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56501 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 5:48 pm to
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the major flaw in your post is that LSU was limited to hire Jimbo, Herman, or O, and we had to do it by today at noon


And that because you can't guarantee success, it means you shouldn't hire the guy that appears to be most likely to succeed.
Posted by sgallo3
Dorne
Member since Sep 2008
24747 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 5:49 pm to
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as opposed to doing what, spout negativity on a message board?



We could always go protest in the streets like the Hillary and Black Lives Matter movements. They seem to be accomplishing a lot. I think if they keep protesting Trump isnt gonna be president
Posted by Carlos Santannaclaus
Houston
Member since Jan 2008
3271 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 5:49 pm to
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he amount of linear thinkers on this board is scaring me.


The amount of mindless, non-thinking morons on this board is scaring me. FIFY.
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90510 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 5:50 pm to
I hear ya. I'm kinda the same except I don't think he is in the 4th or 5th spot.
Posted by PhishyTiger
Collierville
Member since Jul 2016
184 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 5:51 pm to
We've had since September to lock this up...
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37278 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:00 pm to
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A lot more goes into a coaches success than just "hire this guy and you win and if you hire this guy you lose" ultimately we didnt execute vs florida and bama and it goes on the coach but i have confidence that with a full offseason to prepare coach O can change that. We've had some amazingly successful games against good A&M and Arkansas teams that prove hiring O isnt the end of the world


This is a disaster. O has no chance at winning the SEC, no chance at a national championship. There is no proof that he can build a sustainable program.

I understand the want to look positively, and the want to support O. But you can't tell me that when you look at O you expect to see him in the likes of Sabah, Meyer, harbaugh, etc. There is no reality where O is of that caliber a coach.

O is FAR more likely to be .500 in three years than in the playoffs. That's a fact.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7232 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:02 pm to
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We've had some amazingly successful games against good A&M and Arkansas teams that prove hiring O isnt the end of the world


This shows how little you actually know about college football.
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
8647 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:04 pm to
You are correct. We really didn't do a "coaching search". I don't care if Texas leaked info and ruined it, or whatever they say; LSU messed up by not doing a complete coaching search. If they would have, there would be options on the table. To truly believe that Coach O came in 3rd is crazy. Nothing against him, but he's not the 3rd best option if we had a true search. They served the university, fans, players a disservice. Don't count me as a Coach O hater because I'm not.


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