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re: Don't get the DeBoer criticism
Posted on 1/14/24 at 1:03 pm to Contra
Posted on 1/14/24 at 1:03 pm to Contra
Spot on. But those guys never spent time in NAIA so they are obviously better 
I can't stand when people get disparaged over their journey when the end result is being an overwhelming success.
I can't stand when people get disparaged over their journey when the end result is being an overwhelming success.
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Posted on 1/14/24 at 1:09 pm to Adam Banks
Don't play dumb for no reason. He has a track record now in college so you go off that.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 1:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Chad Morris was hired b/c of his run as Clemson's OC, though.
And?
I’m just showing how silly the “NAIA record matters because it shows he wins at every level” is.
This post was edited on 1/14/24 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 1/14/24 at 1:19 pm to jfran23
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Don't play dumb for no reason. He has a track record now in college so you go off that.
Then don’t play dumb when people say claiming his record of over 100 wins is idiotic m
NAIA is probably worse than Texas 6a football
This post was edited on 1/14/24 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 1/14/24 at 1:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Should be able to pull whoever they want. This is where the question comes in: who did they pass on for KD? quote:Just would think with bamas prestige they could pull better. Again, who?
I don’t think anyone through Brian Kelly was available when LSU hired him.
Hell they still had an outside shot at the playoff when he took the job
Posted on 1/14/24 at 1:23 pm to jfran23
He has 3 years of P5 coaching experience. That obviously isn’t everything, but I also don’t put a ton of stock in his NAIA head coaching experience from 15 years ago.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 1:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Why? Penix was a transfer. He won't be able to get comparable transfers at Alabama?
Maybe he gets another Penix or a Joe Burrow in the transfer portal. My point was that his last few years he had Penix at QB and was elite.
Maybe he gets one. I said unlikely to get another Penix... not impossible. Unlikely.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 1:45 pm to Tridentds
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I said unlikely to get another Penix... not impossible. Unlikely.
There are Penix level QBs in almost every transfer portal
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Penix or a Joe Burrow
WHOA...2 different levels of player.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 1:49 pm to Adam Banks
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I don’t think anyone through Brian Kelly was available when LSU hired him.
From other threads trying to make the same point
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Big James Franklin fan?
Has Franklin even been to the playoffs?
I want to hear these mythical superior options with more success.
I mean KD even has had more success than Lanning and Sark (who I might add, both only had success with their own transfer QBs, so that argument is moot) with H2H dominance over both
ETA : remove the guys who either declined or won't leave...Kirby, Dabo, Kelly, Riley, Day, Sark, Lanning...who even has a playoff appearance to get in the conversation? Fickell? Dykes?
KD's 1 playoff victory puts him pretty high up there in terms of active coaches, with Saban retiring.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 1:54 pm to jfran23
Anyone critical of him knows nothing it’s an. Amazing hire.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:04 pm to Zamperini2014
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Anyone critical of him knows nothing it’s an. Amazing hire.
DeBoer appears to be a really good coach, and may be a great one. For a Wisconsin or UCLA level program he would be an "amazing" hire. For Alabama he's the bare minimum that should be expected. Could you imagine them hiring a coach with just a little less success than DeBoer? Maybe a Jed Fisch or Lance Leipold? Bama fans would riot.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:05 pm to jfran23
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not every coach is lucky enough to spend his early years at a SEC or P5 job.
And yet they still decided to go and get a coach that wasn’t. There are numerous out there that do have that experience. And the ones that they were interested in all said no. Poor guys.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:07 pm to jfran23
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This post was edited on 1/15/24 at 2:26 am
Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:08 pm to Epic Cajun
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He has 3 years of P5 coaching experience.
4 years, don't forget about the 3-3 job he did at Fresno State during Covid.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:11 pm to Jabontik
Fresno State isn’t P5 
He has 1 season as the Indiana OC, and 2 as the Washington HC. That’s all of his P5 coaching experience.
Again, that’s not saying that he can’t be successful, but that’s pretty limited coaching experience at the highest level of the game.
He has 1 season as the Indiana OC, and 2 as the Washington HC. That’s all of his P5 coaching experience.
Again, that’s not saying that he can’t be successful, but that’s pretty limited coaching experience at the highest level of the game.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:12 pm to Handsome Pete
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Could you imagine them hiring a coach with just a little less success than DeBoer?
Basically everyone attainable?
Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:15 pm to geauxcoco
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And yet they still decided to go and get a coach that wasn’t. There are numerous out there that do have that experience.
Without the success.
What coaches with SEC experience who were attainable have a playoff win as a HC?
Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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attainable
The great AD's don't know the meaning of this word
Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:19 pm to Shooter
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Harsin was good to before he got to the SEC
He really wasn’t. The Boise dominance began to slip for the first time under his leadership.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:21 pm to Handsome Pete
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The great AD's don't know the meaning of this word
Sure, but that doesn't mean they can sign anyone, and if you think they can, your Brian Daboll pick really shows your grounding in reality
They already had at least 2 coaches say no before DeBoer, and you're going to pretend they can literally just sign anyone?
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