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Canada's Offense: A Film Study
Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:05 pm
I watched some Pitt film. This system seems to lack a definite identity. I don't see it translating to the SEC. Some spread stuff, but a lot of it looks like our current system.
Some Spread
Some I Form
Even some Wing-T/Flex Bone
No Zone Read
Does not look dual threat QB based. Makes me wonder if there is any sauce behind Dellinger's report.
Pittsburgh 2016 but,
Similar system at NC State 2014
UPDATE
Just watched all offensive plays Pitt v Clemson
- Creative formations and shifts
- Zone read does not use qb legs, but instead fakes the zone then shuttle passes/pitch to TE/HB under neath.
- played fairly well in upset game vs Clemson, in large part due to Clemson poor run defense
However
- The passing attack is very deficient. A good bit of the passing game came from repeated forward laterals (shuttle pitches) to backs and tight ends, which technically counts as a pass. Very Little vertical concepts. Not much going on in terms of crosses, slants, etc. Some attempt to throw bubbles which were blown up. Lots of roll outs.
- Lots of bells and whistles pre-snap (not much happens after the snap). Though there is innovation in formations and pre-snap shifts, actual play selection leaves a bit to be desired, mostly due to under developed passing concepts.
-Could be something to build off of. I question whether this system fits the SEC, or whether it is a meaningful departure from what LSU, Arkansas, Florida, or Georgia already does.
Conclusion: I don't question whether Dellinger's sources have fed him Canada's name, I would be surprised to find that reports of his candidacy is anything more than a smoke screen, with very little "sauce."
Some Spread
Some I Form
Even some Wing-T/Flex Bone
No Zone Read
Does not look dual threat QB based. Makes me wonder if there is any sauce behind Dellinger's report.
Pittsburgh 2016 but,
Similar system at NC State 2014
UPDATE
Just watched all offensive plays Pitt v Clemson
- Creative formations and shifts
- Zone read does not use qb legs, but instead fakes the zone then shuttle passes/pitch to TE/HB under neath.
- played fairly well in upset game vs Clemson, in large part due to Clemson poor run defense
However
- The passing attack is very deficient. A good bit of the passing game came from repeated forward laterals (shuttle pitches) to backs and tight ends, which technically counts as a pass. Very Little vertical concepts. Not much going on in terms of crosses, slants, etc. Some attempt to throw bubbles which were blown up. Lots of roll outs.
- Lots of bells and whistles pre-snap (not much happens after the snap). Though there is innovation in formations and pre-snap shifts, actual play selection leaves a bit to be desired, mostly due to under developed passing concepts.
-Could be something to build off of. I question whether this system fits the SEC, or whether it is a meaningful departure from what LSU, Arkansas, Florida, or Georgia already does.
Conclusion: I don't question whether Dellinger's sources have fed him Canada's name, I would be surprised to find that reports of his candidacy is anything more than a smoke screen, with very little "sauce."
This post was edited on 12/12/16 at 12:41 pm
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Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:07 pm to prepsportsallday
Kinda gimmicky. But it works well.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:09 pm to prepsportsallday
quote:
What type of offense does Canada run?
The kind that gets you fired from NC State
Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:13 pm to TGK4LSU
Jacoby Brissett was light years better at NCSU under Canada than he was at UF. At Wisky, we ran a successful offense under Bilema. Even had a Doak Walker award winner. My guess is that Canada is just making the most out of the talent he had at Pitt. He does run a ton of misdirection which is something we haven't seen under Miles.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:19 pm to TGK4LSU
quote:
The kind that gets you fired from NC State
Very ignorant statement
Eta: you realize Helfrich, Kiffin, and Briles were all fired as well, right? I suppose all of them aren't worthy of consideration either.
This post was edited on 12/11/16 at 9:36 pm
Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:20 pm to prepsportsallday
https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/joe-starkey/2016/12/01/Matt-Canada-runs-Pitt-s-offense-the-way-Todd-Graham-once-promised
More Info on Canada
More Info on Canada
This post was edited on 12/11/16 at 9:52 pm
Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:23 pm to prepsportsallday
Idk
But his offense is 1-1 against SEC play
With the one win being at Alabama
So bring him to bayou!
But his offense is 1-1 against SEC play
With the one win being at Alabama
So bring him to bayou!
Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:25 pm to prplngldtigr
I was just linking this. My favorite part was:
quote:
“We run the same plays over and over, just with different variations, from different formations,” he said. “People always ask, ‘What kind of offense do you have?’ An offense that scores points. That’s what I tell them.”
Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:29 pm to Tiger Tracker
I love that the guy understands TOP and how important a power running game is to winning.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:45 pm to prplngldtigr
quote:
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What type of offense does Canada run? by prplngldtigr
Canada runs-Pitt-s-offense-the-way-Todd-Graham-once-promised
More Info on Canada
bad link
Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:51 pm to Tiger Tracker
quote:
you realize Helfrich, Kiffin, and Briles were all fired as well, right? I suppose all of them aren't worthy of consideration either.
Hope you weren't an anti-O.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:54 pm to prepsportsallday
quote:In other words, he runs what works based on what his QB can learn, perfect and do well.
I watched some Pitt highlights. Some spread stuff, but a lot of it looks like our current system. Some Spread Some I Form Even some Wing-T No Zone Read Does not look dual threat QB based. Makes me wonder if there any sauce behind Dellinger's report.
Sign him up, make the call to Bay St. Louis and let's get this thing going!
(Hopefully he can recruit some Pennsylvania OL's to LSU in the process)
This post was edited on 12/11/16 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:57 pm to TGK4LSU
Lol he can't help it the head coach at NC state was a moron and offense took serious steps back this year with Canada.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 10:13 pm to prepsportsallday
quote:
Even some Wing-T
Think you mean Flexbone
Posted on 12/11/16 at 10:13 pm to prepsportsallday
I'm watching the Clemson game right now. I'm no Xs and Os guy, but a few things I've noticed:
He does A TON of shifting at the line of scrimmage. Some hurry up.
A lot of roll outs.
There's a lot of read options. The QB can hand it off to a RB, WR, or keep it. Their QB hasn't run much, but he has the option.
They scored on this beautiful pass play that at first looked like a designed QB run up the middle.
Some shovel passes.
A lot of different stuff.
He does A TON of shifting at the line of scrimmage. Some hurry up.
A lot of roll outs.
There's a lot of read options. The QB can hand it off to a RB, WR, or keep it. Their QB hasn't run much, but he has the option.
They scored on this beautiful pass play that at first looked like a designed QB run up the middle.
Some shovel passes.
A lot of different stuff.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 10:17 pm to prepsportsallday
It's the power spread, and it's a good fit for LSU's personnel.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 10:17 pm to Fus0623
quote:
quote:
Even some Wing-T
Think you mean Flexbone
yes, similar look
Posted on 12/11/16 at 10:18 pm to abellsujr
quote:
m watching the Clemson game right now. I'm no Xs and Os guy, but a few things I've noticed:
He does A TON of shifting at the line of scrimmage. Some hurry up.
A lot of roll outs.
There's a lot of read options. The QB can hand it off to a RB, WR, or keep it. Their QB hasn't run much, but he has the option.
They scored on this beautiful pass play that at first looked like a designed QB run up the middle.
Some shovel passes.
A lot of different stuff.
im watching clemson pitt now. Lot of shifting for sure.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:17 pm to BigSlick
quote:
Hope you weren't an anti-O.
Not really the same situation. O had never proven himself since his ole miss failure. Kiffin and Canada have proven they are good OCs after their firings. Also worth mentioning Canada firing was a mistake and kiffin firing was as HC. Briles, of whom i am not a fan, was fired for non performance related reasons.
This post was edited on 12/11/16 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 12/12/16 at 12:04 am to Tiger Tracker
I see zone read concepts but QB never pulls and runs. Lot of shuttle passes after zone reads.
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