re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

Can't. fricking. wait.

I'll say it one more time........ Nathalie Emmanuel is the hottest cast member by far.

I definitely think that Aemon knew about Jon's parentage. Thanks for the link.

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Mormont

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I think there is a chance that he knew as well.

Ned
Howland
Benjen
Aemon
Jeor

The only people in Westeros that knew. That list is getting smaller.

The key to all of this I believe is Selmy. He served under Aerys and from what he has been telling Dany he knew Rhaegar surprisingly well, even though he wasn't considered a "close" friend. The more we find out about Rhaegar the more the SoIaF will be sung. I think the reason Rhaegar talked to Aemon so much is because of Aemon's maestership. Rhaegar knew that Aemon could give him counsel without opening his mouth. But somewhere along Rhaeger trying to fullfil the prophecy he knew it would cost him his life. Selmy talks about Rhaegar being born under a shadow of grief that hung over him all his life.

Also there's this: Selmy talks about Rhaegar going to Summerhall by himself and sleeping in the ruins, but always coming back with a song that was about himself and his family and they were always melancholy. The dwarf woman/green seer/child of the forest at Heart Hill tells Arya that she is a blood child and that she had fed on enough grief at Summerhall. My question is, what the hell is at Summerhall other than maybe the ghost of the Targaryans that died their? What fasinated Rhaegar so much to go there so often? Is there one more egg still sitting there hidden? BTW these chapters are right next to each other.

Lastly, I noticed, after Jon is escapes the wildlings in the Gift and he stops to rest, he wonders, how he was able to fight off the wildling with sword in hand and mount the horse with a saddle. Sounds familiar to Lyanna. So to me of there was any doubt about Lyanna being his mother, that just threw it out the window.

I think he may be referring to how Lyanna and Brandon were both excellent horse riders, and people used to say Lyanna was 'half a horse' herself (some think that she may have been warging her horse on some level). Therefore Jon has a natural riding ability like his mom and uncle, due to the Starks being wargs/skinchangers, which was latent until the beginning of the series.

From the AWOIAF:

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Lyanna rode horses like a northman. Harwin compares her riding skills to those of Arya Stark.[4] Barbrey Dustin reports that both Brandon and Lyanna loved to ride. She compares them to a "pair of centaurs".[5] Roose Bolton claims that Lyanna was "half a horse herself", probably meaning a centaur, however, he also claims that his son, Domeric Bolton, could out-race her.[6]

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Well it was said that Lyanna was a natural on a horse because of her wolfs blood. When Jon is in aw of his own skill on the horse it's put in the italicized thought form. I noticed in George's writing that he italicizes the thought of characters not just to distinguish it from dialog, but to subtly emphasize importance like we normally do when we read something italicized. So I think that this is a small important nod to the readers that says: hey, do you see the parallel?

I've noticed that when people discuss these theories that they feel like George has made it "too easy" to figure these plot points out. So in turn, with his grey shaded world and things always seeming to be a complex mystery, that he wouldn't make it so easy to figure his grand scheme. But if you'll look at the chapters with green seers you'll notice he telegraphs what is going to happen next. He did it with Jojen and he did it with Heart Hill. Someone asked in this thread or another if George is pissed because big reveal is ruined and I said I doubt because good writers want intelligent people to read their stories. And if the R+L=K is his big reveal then I think he's sitting back thinking "thank god dumbasses don't read my books because I've given them a fun mystery for them to try and solve and they done a great job of putting the pieces together to get their conclusion. Now, wait till they see who ends up on the Iron Throne."

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I certainly hope George wouldn't be mad at people discussing theories on here, Westeros.org, Reddit, etc. All the evidence is present in the books, and the show to some extent. And if he is pissed, well that's his damn problem for not writing the books faster.

I'd like to think/I want Jon to be king at the end of the series, but I'm not sure if that's too "obvious"/have my doubts. The Hodors think Dany is going to be Queen but I don't see that happening; that's even more obvious than Jon sitting the throne (which from a Hodor perspective, would be very surprising to see Jon on the throne, but to us, it's expected). I started my 'rewatch of all 3 seasons' project about 2.5 weeks ago--I just watched S2E10 2 days ago and S3 E1 last night (and I'll watch S3E2 & S3E3 tonight)...the HotU scene differs greatly from the books to the show, but the show version shows the Red Keep in ruin (probably from Cersei burning it down with wildfire), and the throne room is covered in snow. That scene convinced me thet winter is going to extend well below the Neck and probably cover all of Westeros, including Dorne and the Reach. Dany walks to the throne, but doesn't touch it. David and Dan know the endgame--she's going to get *this* close to becoming Queen, but something is going to happen that prevents her. I tend to think she's going to die during the final battle against the Others.

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But if you'll look at the chapters with green seers you'll notice he telegraphs what is going to happen next. He did it with Jojen and he did it with Heart Hill.

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Hmm I need to start my reread of the series sooner than later. That's a great observation .

Regarding Jojen, does it have to do with him knowing when he dies and Bran eating the Jojen paste? And Ghost of High Heart, when she's talking to Arya about Summerhall and the prophecies?

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The Heart Hill chapters, I mean, you got go back and read those and you'll see that they basically tell you exactly how things go down. From Balon's death to Catelyn's resurrection in the first visit. Then in the second visit, grey wind dying and the purple wedding. Also Hoat's demise.

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The main prophecy I'm interested in from the High Heart that may have not happened yet is the "maiden slaying the savage giant in the snow." Some fans think that already happened when Sweetrobin knocked down her snowcastle at the end of ASoS, but I think it points to a bigger event later on down the road...perhaps Sansa slaying Littlefinger since his original family sigil is the Titan (giant) of Braavos.

I'm also curious about the dream Bran had in AGoT about Robert Strong:
Bran's greendream about Robert Strong

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I'm also curious about the dream Bran had in AGoT about Robert Strong:
Bran's greendream about Robert Strong

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Interesting. It's amazing the things I missed on the first read. Time to start reading them again.

"He saw Sansa crying herself to sleep at night, and he saw Arya watching in silence and holding her secrets hard in her heart. There were shadows all around them. One shadow was dark as ash, with a terrible face of a hound. Another was armored like the sun, golden and beautiful. Over both of them loomed a giant in armor made of stone, but when he opened his visor, there was nothing inside but darkness and thick black blood."

From reading the thread in the link provided, it seems people are split on who "was armored like the sun" and who the "giant in armor made of stone" are.

I guess it could be Oberyn and Robert Strong, but if it referring to them, then I would think that the dream would mean that Robert Strong kills The Hound as well. Since he "loomed" over both of them.