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XtennesseeX
| Favorite team: | Tennessee  |
| Location: | Florida |
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| Number of Posts: | 22 |
| Registered on: | 1/29/2007 |
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re: UT Presser
Posted by XtennesseeX on 1/3/09 at 5:20 pm to xLxSxUxFxAxNx
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where was kiffin before he was hired by dungy? what has he done since then that has been so ground breaking?
What ground breaking thing did Chavis do before Tennessee?
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he hasn't had to really teach a system to teenagers the past decade.
Monte said yesterday, 'football is football'. He said he was talking to Pete Carroll about the transition from the NFL to College, and was talking about he wouldn't have trouble coaching 18-22 year olds because he has coached guys like Gaines Adams who came out of college at 20 years old. He isn't just bringing the Tampa 2, and dumping it on his players. He'll have to adjust & do other things.
Kevin Carter, one of his players in Tampa, said this...
No matter, said Bucs' defensive end Kevin Carter, who even went so far as to suggest that the legendary Kiffin might be a better fit in college - recruiting and all - thanks to his enthusiasm.
"He might," Carter said. "The kind of 'rah rah' type attitude, the college enthusiasm that we (the Bucs) play with and that we have, it's uncommon in the NFL and he's kept it here for a long time.
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re: UT Presser
Posted by XtennesseeX on 1/3/09 at 5:06 pm to xLxSxUxFxAxNx
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actually a friend and i were talking last night how we both thought mark richt was a good coach but over the past few years we have come to realize he is overrated. so i love your example
He isn't overrated. He isn't going to get them a National Championship though most likely.
Either way, six 10+ win seasons, two SEC Championships, & two BCS Bowl wins in eight years isn't overrated.
Especially when you reach back before Richt from 1980-1997, they only had six 10+ win seasons.
re: UT Presser
Posted by XtennesseeX on 1/3/09 at 4:58 pm to xLxSxUxFxAxNx
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this statement alone shows the true delusion of your fanbase.
Even if you don't agree with his/or her statement that Monte is an elite DC in the NFL,
As of last year, Kiffin's defense has finished in the Top 10 in passing defense 10 times in 12 seasons, and in the top 10 in points allowed in 11 of the 12 seasons he spent as the Buccaneers' DC.
re: UT Presser
Posted by XtennesseeX on 1/3/09 at 4:47 pm to BilJ
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recruiting wise I'm not even sure what y'all are expecting out of O. Most of the areas UT used to raid have been shored up by other rising programs. I wouldn't expect him to come down here and steal anyone
Memphis area has some talent. We will always recruit the south. We've managed to pull out some great recruits from the west coast (Mostly California) in the last decade under Fulmer. Another very good area is the Chesapeake area of Virginia.
If Fulmer managed to bring in two top 5 recruiting classes since 2005, this staff will be fine.
re: UT Presser
Posted by XtennesseeX on 1/3/09 at 4:41 pm to Maximus
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well if Pete Carroll wasn't USC's first choice than Lane Kiffin must be awesome. I mean that makes sense, right?
Not quite sure you're getting the analogy. He said Tennessee is reduced to hiring potential. I gave an example of hiring potential.
Mark Richt was the offensive coordinator for an unbelievably talented Florida State team, and he has done just fine as head coach at Georgia. Was Mark Richt just a beneficiary of talent at FSU, and a complete fraud?
re: UT Presser
Posted by XtennesseeX on 1/3/09 at 4:33 pm to BilJ
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keep convincing yourselves passing on Brian Kelly was wise
Kelly is a good coach. Kiffin + the staff he is putting together is undeniably a good hire.
Kelly's only problem was recruiting. To win at UT, it is a must to recruit. Kiffin & his staff bring that.
re: UT Presser
Posted by XtennesseeX on 1/3/09 at 4:26 pm to Cash
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And Tennessee is reduced to hiring potential.
When USC hired Pete Carroll, he was writing for Sports Illustrated. Alot of USC supporters didn't like the hire.
An interesting bit, Nick Saban turned down the USC job not long before Pete Carroll landed at USC. His agent (Sexton) told him 'Man, you don't want to go to Southern Cal. Nobody wants to send their kids to school in south central LA anymore'.
USC had to 'reduce' itself, and hire a coach that took over a team that was in the Superbowl the year prior, to out of the playoffs by year three. USC hired a failed NFL coach, who was spending his time as a part time sports columnist.
2 National Championships, & 7 Conference Championships later, I'm sure they're happy they found him.
Hiring potential isn't a bad thing, especially with the staff around him.
re: UT Presser
Posted by XtennesseeX on 1/3/09 at 3:32 pm to Cash
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I never said they didn't, but lets be honest it isn't that hard to recruit to USC these days. This is especially true for when Kiffin was the RC because O had already done alot of the dirty work and got the ball rolling.
That is somewhat true. Kiffin, while not being 'the' recruiting coordinator while Orgeron was, still recruited.
Either way, Tennessee has both right now. I'm arguing that Tennessee has a great coaching staff right now (Kiffin, Chaney, Orgeron, etc..) with the possible addition of Rodney Garner.
Maybe you agree, I don't know. I just don't see how some think Tennessee made a bad hire in hiring Lane Kiffin.
re: UT Presser
Posted by XtennesseeX on 1/3/09 at 3:22 pm to BilJ
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if he were truly the playcaller and man behind the offense why did sark get the first offer from the raiders?
That, I don't know. I will never understand anything behind Al Davis.
I'm going by what Pete Carroll said himself about Kiffin.
re: UT Presser
Posted by XtennesseeX on 1/3/09 at 3:20 pm to Cash
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You can spin it anyway you like but most of those quotes were because of Orgeron and to a lesser degree Monte.
USC's offense was going on all cylinders before Kiffin was the co-OC and didn't miss a beat after he left.
It also helped that he was the co-OC with Leinart, Bush, White, etc. in there prime.
I agree that USC's offense was fine before, and after he left. Yes, USC did set school records on offense while he was the OC. (Yes he called the plays) You could argue that Kiffin had a TON of talent, but it isn't like Kiffin & Orgeron didn't have anything to do with recruiting that talent, considering they were the recruiting coordinators during that time.
BTW, You didn't quote the whole post. He still agrees that Tennessee made a good move.
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Why are you guys happy about that? Ed O is a great recruiter and has recruited this area pretty successfully. Kififn is a backstabbing ingrate. Look for Tennessee make it harder for us in landing OUR areas top talent. Pete and the rest of the staff are going to have to step it up. The competition just grew.
re: UT Presser
Posted by XtennesseeX on 1/3/09 at 3:04 pm to Cash
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That link talks about Ed O not Kiffin.
If they hated Lane Kiffin, or thought he sucked, most USC fans would have nothing good to say about him, and they wouldn't be saying anything like this..
A few quotes from USC fans in the thread...
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Tennessee is going to be a force to be reckoned with. Now if you want a dream team, that is quite a staff there with Lane, Monte Kiffin and Coach O.
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Tennessee is quickly becoming one of my favorite teams. That's a beast of a coaching staff
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Wow! Fight on Kiff! Taking the sec by storm!
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I'm not one of those "Once a Trojan, always a Trojan" kind of guys. Especially with regard to transfers and coordinators. They come and go and represent more than just Troy.
I don't wish ill will, but my opinions on Tenn does not change because of this. However if Kiffin's success gives the WLPs heartburn then color me bright orange.
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Tennessee is going to be a good team in a few years. All depends if they can get a QB.
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We still have Pete...it just doesn't get better than that.
Good luck to the Kiffins and CEO.
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Its actually Kiffin. Kiffin is already better than pete in that he hires decent assistents and doesnt have little man syndrome.
re: UT Presser
Posted by XtennesseeX on 1/3/09 at 2:49 pm to Maximus
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Sarkisian was Chow's protege and responsible for the offense.
I'm guessing you know more than Pete Carroll?
Pete Carroll said in an interview that Lane Kiffin called the plays when he was the OC, & was a key developer in the offense they run today.
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underachieving as a co-coordinator?
Underachieve? They set offensive records virtually in every statistical category at USC while he was the OC.
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USC fans disagree.
Yeah, this just screams of hate.
LINK
Those guys must hate Lane Kiffin. Wow, look at the aggression.
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