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Travel Question- London and Paris

Posted on 3/11/16 at 1:55 pm
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 3/11/16 at 1:55 pm
hey guys

wife and i are planning a trip to Europe in early 2017, and we plan on hitting up London and Paris and surrounding areas.

I seriously dont even know where to start its so overwhelming. any tips on websites to use and travel tips are appreciated. just by looking at flight only prices, im assuming its better to do packages? whats a good time of year, amount of days, amount expected to spend, etc?


also, please just give me some tips on just London and Paris. I know people will recommend other countries, but we are starting with these and focusing on them.

next trip we are open(wanting to do Italy/Germany)
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72032 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 1:58 pm to
fly into london

high speed train to paris (and a few other locales if you're interested in seeing other places)


Buy Rick Steves book Europe Through the Back Door
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9045 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 2:04 pm to


My vote for most short-sighted book title ever.
This post was edited on 3/11/16 at 2:20 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115968 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 2:05 pm to
I can't speak for London but I can Paris.

We stayed on the Left Bank in the St Germain Des Pres area last time. Very chic and centrally located, and easy to get anywhere. We loved our hotel, it was more boutique. Hotel Madison. There are nicer places but we were very happy with it.

Get familiar with the neighborhoods (arrondisements) of Paris and where you want to stay. They have distinct personalities. They are easy to google and find out about. The lower the numbered district, the closer it is to the center of town, which is where you probably want to be.

Most people speak English. In fact virtually everyone. Don't believe the BS that they are rude. They do not smile, that's just how they are. Attempt to speak some French to them first, even if its to ask if they speak English. They will love you for it. ALWAYS say Bonjour when walking into a shop/restaurant/bar/cafe. They expect it and consider it rude if you don't.

ParisByMouth.com is a GREAT resource for food/drinks. They have lists for many different types of places and are usually really on top of the trends and latest places. Paris has some of the best restaurants you can possibly imagine.

I recommend L'ami Jean, Septime, Spring.

Take the Metro (subway) everywhere. You can take cabs and Uber if you want but the Metro is VERY easy, especially with Google Maps, cheap as hell, and there is literally a stop on every other corner. It is amazing.

I rented a Travel Wifi Hotspot last time I was there and it helped me a great deal. Could use Google Maps, Translate, etc with ease and get around.

One thing about Paris though: Try not to stick to a rigid schedule. Its a place you REALLY need to just stroll and enjoy.
Posted by Aux Arc
SW Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
2184 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 2:07 pm to
I would go to Paris with minimal plans and just wander around and find things to do. I could figure 2 full days in the Louvre. Napoleon's tomb and Army Museum is another good place. Montmartre/Sacre Coeur, Eiffel Tower, Arch de Triumph, etc. Just walk around and take the place in. Paris is a really cool place if you don't take along a shitty American (french people suck) attitude.

If I was planning the trip I would plan twice as much time in Paris as I would in London.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115968 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

I would go to Paris with minimal plans and just wander around and find things to do. I could figure 2 full days in the Louvre. Napoleon's tomb and Army Museum is another good place. Montmartre/Sacre Coeur, Eiffel Tower, Arch de Triumph, etc. Just walk around and take the place in. Paris is a really cool place if you don't take along a shitty American (french people suck) attitude.


Totally agree.

The one thing I would plan is food. For every spectacular restaurant, there are a lot of shitty touristy places.

Read reviews and stick to the places you want to eat, don't wing it unless you have a great concierge telling you to go somewhere.

Otherwise, yeah, just kind of stroll around.
Posted by BlueSharpie
Member since Nov 2015
50 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 2:10 pm to
For our first Europe trip, I found it beneficial to meet with a travel agent. Now, I'm not a travel-agent-frequenting kind of person because I enjoy planning everything and being in control of it all. But, like you, I found planning a bit overwhelming at first and meeting with her helped me narrow down what I really wanted to do/see. In the end, I still planned it myself and didn't go thru the agent (which maybe is a bad thing to do but her estimate was 24K and we did it ourselves for 14. She put us on all kinds of group and private tours even though I told her that wasn't our preference), but the experience was valuable to me. We did two weeks, family of five.

I'm sure you are checking tripadvisor and the like?
Another thing I like to do is check out any hotels I am considering on google street view to get an idea of what kind of neighborhood it is in before I book.

Good luck!
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9947 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

My vote for most short-sighted book title ever.


Yep. Lake Bled cover is awesome though. That place is unreal.
Posted by Bill Dauterive
Member since Jul 2014
158 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 2:14 pm to
The Metro in Paris is the most efficient thing I've ever seen.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
22027 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 2:16 pm to
how long in Paris?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115968 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

The Metro in Paris is the most efficient thing I've ever seen.



Yeah. It really is amazing actually.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68318 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 2:22 pm to
it will be the best of times and the worst of times
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27752 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 2:26 pm to
this is great guys, thanks a bunch.

question- what can i expect to pay for a 7/8 day trip? is that too short?

will i get laughed at if i say my budget is under $10,000?

sorry, im not an OT baller yet
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115968 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

will i get laughed at if i say my budget is under $10,000?



No you can do it.

Does the 7-8 days include 2 travel days?
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27752 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 2:33 pm to
well i guess so. would be a leave 7-8pm central, arrive after lunch in London.

leave late in day from Paris
Posted by Swoopin
Member since Jun 2011
22030 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 2:34 pm to
I like Lonely Planet books personally, I'd pick up 3-4 (Paris, London, England, France) and glance through them for ideas.

I recommend summer because the days are long (even longer than here considering their latitude) so you'll be able to enjoy more. Other than that, spring would be good because the countrysides are at their prettiest (blooms, etc).

Within several hours of Paris you have Champagne, Burgundy, Normandy.

When you're in London definitely check out Oxford and the Seven Sisters to the south.

ETA: Definitely check out Versailles

7/8 days would be too short for both cities/areas if you ask me. If limited to 7-8 days I'd do Paris. I'd suggest doing 10 days, 4-5 in each with a travel day.
This post was edited on 3/11/16 at 2:37 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115968 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

well i guess so. would be a leave 7-8pm central, arrive after lunch in London.

leave late in day from Paris


First of all, try and do an overnight flight if you can to give you the maximum amount of day time in country.

Second, yeah, to do both cities that is not a lot of time. It would basically be ok we spent some time in this city now lets move on. I was in Paris 6 full days last time and I felt like that was kind of rushed.

If you just want to hit a few highlights and go to both just because you don't know if you will ever be back, go for it. If you want to actually enjoy either city, just pick one, personally.
Posted by BlueSharpie
Member since Nov 2015
50 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 2:47 pm to
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This post was edited on 12/12/16 at 12:37 pm
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27752 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 2:53 pm to
Posted by Ducyborg
Denver, CO
Member since Apr 2012
1191 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 2:55 pm to
The wife and I went last October, we spent 16 days total. 5 in London and paris and 3 in Brussels and Amsterdam. We were under 10k and a majority of our money was spent on dining and sightseeing. We used miles from traveling for work to get our tickets and air bnb the rooms. It was a good experience. I would do some research on the free walking tours and book ahead of time if you are interested.
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