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Wifi Extender or Access Point to alleviate bad Wifi connection in home?

Posted on 11/13/14 at 4:48 pm
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52148 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 4:48 pm
We are having difficulty picking up Wifi in our bedroom due to router being on other side of house. What are the pros/cons of a wifi extender vs an access point?
Posted by Chuckd
Louisiana
Member since May 2013
797 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 6:04 pm to
I have the same problem. I went to best buy and told them my problem and asked them to give me the best router they had. It didn't help. But yet when I go to my parents house I can pick up my grand parents wifi next door. I don't get it.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27825 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 6:08 pm to
Apple express has done wonders in my house.
Posted by LSU Tammany Tiger
Folsom, LA
Member since Dec 2007
1642 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 7:22 pm to
this will fix your problems, easy to install

Edimax EW-7228APn 150Mbps 11n Wireless Range Extender/Access Point with 5 Port Switch
by Edimax
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 1:25 pm to
I have a TP-link extender and it works very well. The advantage of an extender over an AP is the simplicity of setup and maintenance. I really like that the TP-link also has an output to Cat5 so it basically acts as an ethernet bridge for any device that doesn't have Wifi built in (microcell or xbox 360).

The benefit of the AP is more customization and probably better range. The setup is more involved, though and is basically another router to maintain.

I have an extra one of these if you want it.

LINK
This post was edited on 11/14/14 at 1:26 pm
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52148 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:32 pm to
How much you want for it?
Posted by broadhead
Member since Oct 2014
2111 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 4:04 pm to
An Access point will require an ethernet jack to connect to the network. A range extender won't.

My personal preference is having access points through out.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37202 posts
Posted on 11/15/14 at 1:54 pm to
APs require a wired connection to your router, but provide 100% bandwidth.

Extenders/Repeaters do not require a wired connection but will cut your bandwidth in half.
Posted by Venelar
The AP
Member since Oct 2010
1135 posts
Posted on 11/15/14 at 3:01 pm to
quote:


APs require a wired connection to your router, but provide 100% bandwidth.

Extenders/Repeaters do not require a wired connection but will cut your bandwidth in half.


About this..we are remodeling right now and plan to add an outdoor kitchen/TV area in the spring. The plan now is to just get a few APs to wire from our current router. Is there a lot of network know-how to required to get it all on the same said or will each ap have a diff name?
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3798 posts
Posted on 11/15/14 at 3:18 pm to
Does this pick up dual band?

I have a dual band router and same as OP get a weak signal in my bedroom. Could pick this up cheap, but would prefer the 5GHz band due to interference with my baby monitor.
Posted by broadhead
Member since Oct 2014
2111 posts
Posted on 11/15/14 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

About this..we are remodeling right now and plan to add an outdoor kitchen/TV area in the spring. The plan now is to just get a few APs to wire from our current router. Is there a lot of network know-how to required to get it all on the same said or will each ap have a diff name?


They're not difficult to setup but yes you want to configure them with the SSID of the wifi network you are using.
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:53 am to
$15 shipped.

It only works on the 2.4GHz band though.
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:56 am to
quote:

I have a dual band router and same as OP get a weak signal in my bedroom. Could pick this up cheap, but would prefer the 5GHz band due to interference with my baby monitor.


5GHz doesn't carry the signal as far as 2.4GHz. Are you sure you are locked into the 5GHz band on your device?
Posted by Casty McBoozer
your mom's fat arse
Member since Sep 2005
35495 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

About this..we are remodeling right now and plan to add an outdoor kitchen/TV area in the spring. The plan now is to just get a few APs to wire from our current router. Is there a lot of network know-how to required to get it all on the same said or will each ap have a diff name?

Get APs designed to work together: LINK
Posted by BoostAddict
Member since Jun 2007
2988 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:47 pm to
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...Get APs designed to work together: LINK


Speaking of ubnt... just got 2 Nanostation Loco M2's and set up a wireless bridge from the cable modem to my house. It's running about 800ft through trees and 3 walls. F'n amazing... and I finally get to tell ATT to GTFO with their crappy DSL.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14965 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

Is there a lot of network know-how to required to get it all on the same said or will each ap have a diff name?


In general, regardless of brand, you must know how to:
1) plug a computer directly into the ethernet port and go to the router's default IP to access its features. Some routers have software that can do this from the desktop without typing an IP. All except the Apple line of routers/APs (to my knowledge. There could be a handful of others that are desktop-software only but I don't know about them) have their own "web page"

2) first/main router needs to have DHCP enabled with a range set to exclude at least as many addresses in one subnet as AP's

-assuming you buy cheap wireless routers and not dedicated access points:
3) you have to be able to find the router's "mode" in its settings and set it to Access Point

3.5) turn DHCP off if it does not automatically turn itself off in AP mode or doesn't have a default AP mode

4) set AP's static IP to an address outside the range you set in 2 (but in the same subnet, so the first 3 numbers are the same (ie: everything is 192.168.1.xxx)

5) must set ssid to same ssid as main router

6) must set same security protocol for router + APs


If all of that made enough sense to you that you could at least Google your way into figuring out the parts you didn't understand, you're fully capable of setting up the network you're describing. And it would be the best option for max throughput (available bandwidth at each subsequent access point, essentially) in the entire network.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14965 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

Get APs designed to work together: LINK


You pimp these a lot, and I'm going to be lazy and ask you instead of looking it up.

PoE = a positive in almost any circumstance where you want to somewhat conceal a handful of APs around a house.

Other than that, what's the advantage? Do they have good management software? Can you break down traffic by AP and the like on it? What advantage would someone like me (capable of taking a switch with X number of ports and extending the network across X APs, each with a different firmware with really very little headache at all) get from these? I get that they're far cheaper than any competitor, but they really seem to compete in the enterprise world where uniformity is important. In a home network, what makes them any better/worse than a handful of cheap (for this argument's sake, let's say a Linksys e1200, which is about $36 (half the cost of the cheapest Ubiquiti one I see while being similar- n300 single band))?

I'm not trying to bash/confront. I'm actually quite interested (pretty soon going to be setting up a nice in home network with multiple APs) as to what the "designed to work together" (which I assume is a decent central management console) offers? And does it require a physical Ubiquiti router/centralized appliance to take advantage of?

ETA: it's advantage over something like a Cisco Aironet in an enterprise environment is clear. I'm just slightly skeptical of its cost:benefit in a home environment on one, single subnet
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 1:23 pm
Posted by LSshoe
Burrowing through a pile o MikePoop
Member since Jan 2008
4015 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 7:20 pm to
quote:

Ubiquiti


I have used these a bit in a few office/enterprise setups. I've never had to set them up personally, but from what I hear its pretty easy to do anything from easy simple setups to fancy mesh networks, etc. For home, its probably not necessary, especially if it's cost prohibitive (never looked up prices), but unless its expensive I'd imagine it would be a decent option if you have a good bit of APs you want to set up.

Edit:

To the OP-- if you have multiple network drops in your house or in some other orderly way could run ethernet from one standard WIFI router to another, you can just connect the two, probably just using the standard LAN ports (maybe not the WAN depending on the model and config), make one router the "master" that handles DHCP (disabling the other), change the IP of the second one to something on the same network, give them both the same Wifi names and security settings and for the most part, thats all you need to be able to float your wireless devices between APs. It's pretty seamless as in you don't need to disconnect/reconnect, you just stay connected to whichever one is closest essentially. The process isn't hard; nothing a little googling can't show you. Look up settings for your specific models to make it easier.
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 7:27 pm
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