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re: Someone explain Linux to me?

Posted on 8/9/14 at 6:38 pm to
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 6:38 pm to
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So which of you uses it as their main os?


I use Linux Mint, and I surf any site without worrying about viruses. The FBI virus has locked up my browser a couple of times, and I just kill the session reopen my browser, and go on as before. The only time I use Windows is the rare occasion when I have to print something, because my printer doesn't have a linux driver, and it's a pain in the arse to look for one that works as a substitute.

My biggest, and really only, criticism of Linux is screwing around under the hood is needlessly complicated if you're not familiar with typing terminal commands. I'm not, and don't really care to put the effort into learning. Windows and Mac are a lot more seamless at things like installing and updating hardware, software, etc.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 6:41 pm to
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2nd question will it work on my old Acer that runs windows XP?


Will make that old acer rock.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 6:49 pm to
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Will make that old acer rock




It would make my day. I can't quite figure out how to start the process. I can get to the Linux homepage but can't find a way to download anything. I love this old laptop and would like to continue using it.
Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 6:56 pm to
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It would make my day. I can't quite figure out how to start the process. I can get to the Linux homepage but can't find a way to download anything.
Does this link not start a download? Linux Mint 17 32bit
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 7:06 pm to
I will try.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 7:11 pm to
Ok it is downloading onto a flash drive right now. Thank you. All I have to do now is figure out how to install it on my ole laptop and I will be ecstatic
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 7:16 pm to
Not familiar with mint flavor of Linux, but ubuntu, which is a widely used one, is here.

Fedora is the other really popular flavor for desktop/laptop use. Here.

Both will walk you through how to install.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 7:21 pm to
Do I have to manually ininstall all of the windows XP stuff or is it still going to be used with the new system
Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 8:01 pm to
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Ok it is downloading onto a flash drive right now.

Just copying that iso file to the USB is not going to work. You will need to use a program that will make a bootable USB stick using that iso. Try UNetbootin, I guess.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 8:03 pm to
No offense, but I seriously want to right now.

There are so MANY tutorials online how to install any chosen flavor of any OS.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 8:09 pm to
I'm sorry if my ignorance offends you. I'm trying and I have been trying for quite some time.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 8:18 pm to
Thank you, my Linux download is complete and is asking me to open, open folder or close which should I do? If I need to download the additional file shouldn't I close tho one?
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 8:44 pm to
Oh well I can't get it to open, it is very frustrating and I know it's my fault. I'm about to google Linux installation tutorial and see what happens. Thank you for helping me.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 9:16 pm to
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I don't really understand why people use it over a traditional operating system.


this is pure gold!!!
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 9:29 pm to
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Oh well I can't get it to open, it is very frustrating and I know it's my fault. I'm about to google Linux installation tutorial and see what happens. Thank you for helping me.

What you have there is an ISO file. You do not need to open it. What you need is a program like UNetbootin that can take that ISO and put its contents on the USB for you, then the computer can boot off that USB drive.

I know it can be daunting at first, but I hope that doesn't turn you off of Linux. All I can say is that for many people it is worth the effort, and actually the learning process is part of the reward.
Posted by InVolNerable
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 10:07 pm to
1.Insert the SD card into your SD card reader and check what drive letter it was assigned. You can easily see the drive letter (for example G:) by looking in the left column of Windows Explorer.

2.Download the Win32 Disk Imager utility (it is also a zip file). You can run this from a USB drive.

3.Extract the executable from the zip file and run the Win32DiskImager utility; you may need to run the utility as Administrator! Right-click on the file, and select 'Run as Administrator'

4.Select the image file you extracted above

5.Select the drive letter of the SD card in the device box. Be careful to select the correct drive; if you get the wrong one you can destroy your data on the computer's hard disk!

6.Click Write and wait for the write to complete.



That should get the Linux Distro written and ready to the SD card.
This post was edited on 8/9/14 at 10:09 pm
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 10:25 pm to
I first downloaded linux 17 cinnomin then I downloaded unetting but I cant seem to get it together. Should I have downloaded the unetting file first? Also I just want to switch from XP to linux is this even possible? or am I just wasting my time? I also have an HP laptop that is 18 months old with windows 8 that I would like to change it currently won't boot.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 10:52 pm to
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No offense, but I seriously want to right now.

There are so MANY tutorials online how to install any chosen flavor of any OS.


It's difficult, but you must redirect your frustration. not at those who simply don't know, but rather at those who don't know, think they know, and tell others they know.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 11:22 pm to
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I first downloaded linux 17 cinnomin then I downloaded unetting but I cant seem to get it together. Should I have downloaded the unetting file first?

Doesn't matter. Doesn't even have to be UNetbootin. You just need a program to "burn" the iso file to your usb drive. I'm on mobile so it's hard to help, but you need directions on how to make a bootable usb, so Google that direction.
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Also I just want to switch from XP to linux is this even possible?
Yes. During the Linux install, it will likely ask you what to do with your Windows stuff. One of the options completely eliminates it, so if there is nothing of value on it I would recommend doing that.
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or am I just wasting my time?
That's always a possibility.
Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 2:35 am to
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bencoleman


I won't give you a step by step guide here, because they are all over the internet. Instead, what I will do is kind of explain the process, and hopefully clear some things up to help you understand what all is going to happen.


You will be installing an entirely new operating system on your computer. There are two basic ways this can happen: wipe everything and replace with Linux (Windows, your files, and your programs will be gone), or a dual-boot system (all of your Windows stuff will be "shoved aside" in a process called partitioning to make room for Linux) where you can choose which OS to start when you boot up. The wipe everything method is simpler and easier, but the Linux installer can probably guide you through the dual-boot partition process, though you will have to make a few decisions if you go this route.

The install process is easy. The hard part is getting the install started. The long and short of it is the computer has to boot up from a different drive (or a different partition on the same drive) than the one you're installing the OS onto. That is, the computer has to boot from either a CD/DVD, a USB drive, or any other sort of bootable media in order to install onto the computer's hard drive.

You plan to use a USB stick, so you need to write that ISO file to it. Now, the ISO file is a disk image. That is, it is kind of like a ZIP file in that there are actually many files contained inside that ISO file. So you can't just copy that big file onto the USB drive. This is where UNetbootin (or Win32 Disk Imager, as someone else mentioned) comes in. These programs are capable of properly extracting the ISO file onto the USB drive. And you will lose whatever is already on the USB drive.

Once you have the USB drive all set up, it's just a matter of making the computer boot from it. So your next possible hiccup is going to be accomplishing this. You may have to go into the BIOS and tell it to try booting from USB before it tries the hard drive.

If you can make it this far, the computer should happily boot from your Linux USB stick, and you will be presented with a fully functional desktop. You can play around with it this way just to see if you like it. You can run and install programs, browse the web, whatever. At this point, it still will not have touched your hard drive, so you can reboot with the USB out and go back to Windows. If, instead, you want to actually go ahead and install it to your hard drive, you just have to click the install icon on the desktop. Bear in mind the system will run slowly if booted from a DVD or USB. It will be MUCH faster once it is installed to your hard drive.

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