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So my PC tripped the breaker
Posted on 2/4/15 at 8:11 pm
Posted on 2/4/15 at 8:11 pm
Walked into my office last night to no power. Went to flip breaker to reset but it wouldnt as something was overloading/shorting the circuit. Finally narrowed it down to my PC (not good).
So I pulled it out of the room and plugged it into the hallway outlet but got nothing. No power. So I figured the corsair HX850 was bad. Removed it from system and put the old xfx750 black in there. Plugged into wall, turned power supply on, got a green light at bottom of motherboard. Hit the power button on PC and nothing. Will not power up.
So, maybe the power grid on the MB is bad? Not sure where to go from here. Dont want to just start buying unnecessary parts, but I'd assume at least the board and PS need to be replaced. Any ideas?
So I pulled it out of the room and plugged it into the hallway outlet but got nothing. No power. So I figured the corsair HX850 was bad. Removed it from system and put the old xfx750 black in there. Plugged into wall, turned power supply on, got a green light at bottom of motherboard. Hit the power button on PC and nothing. Will not power up.
So, maybe the power grid on the MB is bad? Not sure where to go from here. Dont want to just start buying unnecessary parts, but I'd assume at least the board and PS need to be replaced. Any ideas?
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 8:28 pm to whodatfan
First, be sure you connected the old PSU correctly (CPU power + 24-pin, etc). If you're sure that it's all connected correctly, then that's bad news.
Yeah, that's the trouble with diagnostics. Only so much you can test without swapping out parts, so start with a motherboard.
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Dont want to just start buying unnecessary parts
Yeah, that's the trouble with diagnostics. Only so much you can test without swapping out parts, so start with a motherboard.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 8:36 pm to ILikeLSUToo
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so start with a motherboard
was just looking on newegg. any suggestions? currently have an asus sabertooth z87. I remember you're not a fan.
Also, I just rebuilt this thing just over a year ago. Maybe I should call asus about warranty as well as corsair. I know the board has a 5 year warranty.
This post was edited on 2/4/15 at 8:42 pm
Posted on 2/4/15 at 9:10 pm to whodatfan
I just think they're ugly and overpriced, but perfectly good motherboards. I'd definitely RMA, but it would be helpful to first find out that the motherboard is bad. You could do that by grabbing a Z87 or 97 board from amazon, which has a better return policy than Newegg. If it works, you can RMA the sabertooth and return the amazon board. ASUS does cross-shipments too I believe.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 9:24 pm to whodatfan
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was just looking on newegg. any suggestions? currently have an asus sabertooth z87. I remember you're not a fan.
I guess it wasn't so TUF, huh?
(I have a Gryphon Z87 which is the Micro-ATX model, and I am commisserating, not making fun of you.)Posted on 2/5/15 at 7:59 am to ILikeLSUToo
I have an older board I can use in the meantime. I'm assuming the RMA goes to Asus since they provide the warranty.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 8:50 am to whodatfan
When my PC started tripping my breaker I had to replace to power supply. Hasn't done it since.
Posted on 2/13/15 at 3:21 pm to whodatfan
Update. Its not the board or PS because I just put a brand new Z97 asus motherboard and EVGA 1000 PS in and same problem. Only now after I tried to turn on the power switch on PC 3 or so times, it actually kicked on power to the PS and board, smoking my water cooler and mabye HDD. Sparks and smoke everywhere. This just became a very expensive problem.
I think it may be the fan controller because with power to the board and PS, no fans come on in my case. Or maybe its the front conteol panel on the case causing a short? Im stumped. And broke. Lol
I think it may be the fan controller because with power to the board and PS, no fans come on in my case. Or maybe its the front conteol panel on the case causing a short? Im stumped. And broke. Lol
Posted on 2/13/15 at 3:48 pm to whodatfan
Holy hell. Something shorted... Wish I could physically examine the motherboard in the case. I don't even know where to begin with that unless I can look at it...
When you ever get around to it, you need to take the case out of the equation completely and just run it all outside the case, with the motherboard resting on top of the box it came in.
Fan controller would only destroy the components connected to it (i.e. fans, water pump), so if it killed your HDD something else is the culprit. Take inventory of all the burnt/dead parts... What brand/model fan controller is it? One that came with the case, or aftermarket? etc
When you ever get around to it, you need to take the case out of the equation completely and just run it all outside the case, with the motherboard resting on top of the box it came in.
Fan controller would only destroy the components connected to it (i.e. fans, water pump), so if it killed your HDD something else is the culprit. Take inventory of all the burnt/dead parts... What brand/model fan controller is it? One that came with the case, or aftermarket? etc
This post was edited on 2/13/15 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 2/13/15 at 3:55 pm to whodatfan
Normal fix for that is to unplug the power from the motherboard to release the short. Wait and then plug back in. If that doesn't work likely bad PS or MB.
Oh damn just read bottom post.. That's not good
Are you using same power cable?
Oh damn just read bottom post.. That's not good
Are you using same power cable?
This post was edited on 2/13/15 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 2/13/15 at 5:16 pm to ILikeLSUToo
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When you ever get around to it, you need to take the case out of the equation completely and just run it all outside the case, with the motherboard resting on top of the box it came in.
I don't build as many as I used to, or the diagnostics, but I'm intrigued by the whole open "bench style" chassis for building, testing or evaluation.
Might be an excuse to buy one for this situation.
Like the DIYPC Alpha DB6 for example:
LINK
It's $40 for an ATX acrylic shelf with legs, but I can see getting a lot of use out of it for a frequent builder/troubleshooter.
This post was edited on 2/13/15 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 2/13/15 at 5:16 pm to ILikeLSUToo
Double post.
This post was edited on 2/13/15 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 2/13/15 at 6:12 pm to Ace Midnight
They do seem handy for people who do a lot of repairs and diagnostics, or for hardware reviewers/testers, but I've never owned one.
They make really fancy ones these days, but I suspect they're mostly for show and not for practical use:
For this instance, I just want him to connect components with nothing touching a case to rule out unnoticed shorts; also easy to see all cable runs, connections, etc. without any hassle.
They make really fancy ones these days, but I suspect they're mostly for show and not for practical use:
For this instance, I just want him to connect components with nothing touching a case to rule out unnoticed shorts; also easy to see all cable runs, connections, etc. without any hassle.
Posted on 2/13/15 at 6:44 pm to ILikeLSUToo
The case is a fractal designs arc midi. Fan controller is fractal design as well. Not really sure what the frick is going on, but Im about to do a total tear down. I dropped 300 on that Z97 and EVGA 1000. Just ordered a Corsair H110i GT cooler and a 1st PC Corp 6 fan digital controller for another cool 220 more dollars. Im tapped out.
Scared shitless to hook all that shite up and hit power.
Funny thing is the damn thing was running fine in there for a year. Dont know what happened.
Scared shitless to hook all that shite up and hit power.
Funny thing is the damn thing was running fine in there for a year. Dont know what happened.
This post was edited on 2/13/15 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 2/13/15 at 7:28 pm to whodatfan
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Funny thing is the damn thing was running fine in there for a year. Dont know what happened.
Wires and electricity are tricky things. It could be as simple as the wrong wire in slight contact with a moving fan - and maybe not even right away - like gradually over time inches closer - then a few weeks/months of fraying that insulation - bam - you've got an arc.
And that's just one possibility.
Posted on 2/13/15 at 7:34 pm to ILikeLSUToo
Funny, That's my enclosure for the past 3 1/2 years.
Posted on 2/13/15 at 7:58 pm to whodatfan
What was connected to that fan controller? Did you by chance have your water cooler pump connected to it on a voltage mode under 12v?
Posted on 2/14/15 at 6:51 pm to ILikeLSUToo
No. Cooler is connected to sata power and its fan to the cpu 4 pin on board. Only the case fans are on the controller.
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