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Rumor:. Apple announcing imessage for Android next week

Posted on 6/9/16 at 8:42 pm
Posted by jeff5891
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Posted on 6/9/16 at 8:42 pm
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
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Posted on 6/9/16 at 9:06 pm to
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was noted via John Gruber’s interview with Eddy Cue and Craig Federighi, that iMessage, at peak times, sees 200,000 messages being sent per second. Looking from the outside, it would seem that it would be in Apple’s best interest to keep such a popular service locked down to its own ecosystem. But if Apple truly plans to open up iMessage beyond its own walls, then it probably has a fairly compelling reason for doing so. It’s a reason that we’ll likely learn more about next week.


It's so they can break it out on the balance sheet and show it as an area of growth.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/9/16 at 11:06 pm to
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It's so they can break it out on the balance sheet and show it as an area of growth.


Sounds like it. They're just squeezing one more ounce of usefulness out of an obsolete service. Well, I shouldn't say obsolete, since it made SMS as we know it obsolete. But it's now just another messaging service that has nothing unique about it as far as I know. When iMessage was first released, texting plans were still a thing, and the seamless integration of iMessage with SMS made it extremely valuable. Does it serve any real purpose anymore?
This post was edited on 6/9/16 at 11:10 pm
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10267 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 12:18 am to
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Does it serve any real purpose anymore?


Absolutely. I can text while on an airplane. That's invaluable to me.

I'm sure there are 3rd party apps to do this but who cares? I don't want a 3rd party app that keeps two text logs.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 12:26 am to
Yeah this is pretty weird and pointless.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 7:19 am to
This is my question. What is the difference? Now a days, everyone seems to have unlimited talk text and it's all about data usage.

What's the point of imessage over sms
Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 7:34 am to
Everyone gets blue bubbles!
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61514 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 7:47 am to
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Does it serve any real purpose anymore?


How about the fairly regular threads about Apple and Android users having problems texting each other, especially in a group text setting. There have been some posters here that switched to iPhone because of the issue.

quote:

just another messaging service


More like the default messaging service on a pretty big platform. I also have to think if they are doing this they plan to monetize it, and since they've taken the "we don't spy on you" stance, I'd have to think the monetization will come from value added. Probably selling emoji packages, but maybe something innovative like buying stuff via messaging like they do in some of the Asian messaging apps.
Posted by Taffeta
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2012
924 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 7:47 am to
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What's the point of imessage over sms


For one, imessage encrypts the data and regular texting is unsecured.
Posted by BobRoss
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 8:02 am to
Doesn't I message show you when the recipient reads your message?
Posted by Lazy But Talented
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 8:23 am to
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oesn't I message show you when the recipient reads your message?




It can. You set whether or not you want to have read receipts on. I would say less than 25% of people I've texted have it on. And it's not necessarily when they actually read it, it's only when they open up the message.

I probably could have explained that better, but I'm still on my first cup of coffee.
This post was edited on 6/10/16 at 8:24 am
Posted by Phate
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 8:23 am to
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Doesn't I message show you when the recipient reads your message?


It does unless the person you're texting turns off read receipts.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 8:40 am to
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What's the point of imessage over sms


End to end encryption

Full res photos

Lossless (uncompressed) video

Dependability (1-2x a month I won't get several hours worth of group sms texts)

Location Sharing

Voice memos

The ability to leave group texts
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 9:00 am to
Lol bitching for years about issues with this, they finally fix it and everyone goes meh. Hilarious
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 9:12 am to
Lol wut?
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 9:14 am to
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everyone goes meh


not only goes meh, but act like there is no point at all. Like WhatsApp wasn't bought for $19 billion and predicted to be worth over $100 billion in a few years. Like Facebook Messenger isn't said to be worth MORE than WhatsApp. Like LINE isn't valued in the billions. Right now iMessage is only worth platform lock-in even though it has more daily users than both WhatsApp and LINE.

If an Apple user asked "what's the point?" of Allo in the Google I/O thread, they would have been ridiculed for being a stupid sheep (even though Google already has 4 other messaging services).

ETA: I just went and looked at the /r/android thread on this topic. It definitely cleansed my pallet of the stupid in this thread.
This post was edited on 6/10/16 at 10:24 am
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 9:16 am to
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More like the default messaging service on a pretty big platform. I also have to think if they are doing this they plan to monetize it, and since they've taken the "we don't spy on you" stance, I'd have to think the monetization will come from value added. Probably selling emoji packages, but maybe something innovative like buying stuff via messaging like they do in some of the Asian messaging apps.


They might expand Apple Pay and take on PayPal's Venmo.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 9:46 am to
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They might expand Apple Pay and take on PayPal's Venmo.


This is my question. What is the difference between Apple Pay and using a card? Now a days, everyone seems to have credit cards and debit cards in their wallets.

What's the point of Apple Pay over cards? Does it serve any real purpose anymore? This is pretty weird and pointless.

Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79234 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 10:13 am to
I'm all android/google

But if getting this means my friends stop bitching about me fricking up the grouptexts, i'll probably do it
Posted by LSU1018
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
7222 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 11:04 am to
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This is my question. What is the difference between Apple Pay and using a card? Now a days, everyone seems to have credit cards and debit cards in their wallets. What's the point of Apple Pay over cards? Does it serve any real purpose anymore? This is pretty weird and pointless.


It's good for me b/c I like to carry a money clip wallet but I also like to play the credit card game. I can't fit all my CC's in my money clip so this allows me to still be able to use whichever one I choose.
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