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Is anyone going to take up the market Logitech dropped (Smart Remotes)

Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:43 am
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57442 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:43 am
I know there is sofa baton but i hear it sucks. My Harmony Elite is still going strong but the battery life sucks now and any replace meant is the same.

Im just wondering what im going to do when this thing dies.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14965 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:48 am to
Control 4 is pretty good, but expensive and terrible for tinkerers.

Most the HA stuff works, but I think tablet control over a physical remote is a travesty.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57442 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 1:32 pm to
i had control4 years ago. I even had my installers log in so i could edit the software but i didnt like it. Lightning took it out.

I have HA but right now harmony is so easy. I hate Logitech shut it down.
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
Member since Jun 2015
1423 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 1:51 pm to
Do you have the Harmony hub? If so, you could just use your phone/tablet to control until a better solution comes out.

I've got 2 Harmony Elites at my house. So if one dies then, I have a backup. Though if the one my mom has dies, she'll get priority on the backup.

I've seen this remote mentioned on reddit. Apparently they're in the process of fulfilling the kickstarter. Hardware looks good; guess will see how it actually pans out.

https://www.unfoldedcircle.com/
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
77981 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 2:05 pm to
I keep checking out SofaBaton but it is so new I am afraid to purchase
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
22685 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 2:26 pm to
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Im just wondering what im going to do when this thing dies.


Find another on Ebay like I just did
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57442 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

I keep checking out SofaBaton but it is so new I am afraid to purchase

thats the thing.... SofaBaton is not "new" they have been around for years.

If i was them, i would recreate the Harmony lineup and put in their best features.
Posted by mchias1
Member since Dec 2009
805 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 3:47 pm to
The new flirc remote is nice.

LINK

I bought one and it works well.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57442 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 3:55 pm to
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The new flirc remote is nice.

LINK

I bought one and it works well.


how does it compare to harmony with the hub? My AV stuff is in a closet, so if IR is needed for a device without IP control there would need to be a hub with IR.

Thinking about ti though idk if i have anything IR in there right now.

Reddit reviews arent great
This post was edited on 9/26/23 at 3:58 pm
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6427 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 4:23 pm to
I think HDMI-ARC killed it. The times I needed to pick up anything but the Roku remote while watching TV were close to zero in the last four or five years.

For automation, I'd prefer SmartThings over other options. Just buy stuff that is compatible with Matter.
Posted by mchias1
Member since Dec 2009
805 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 4:41 pm to
If you have stuff in a closet the Flirc remote won't help. It needs line of sight IR.

I have a harmony hub as well but I have everything in the living room.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22168 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 5:41 pm to
Yall might scoff at it but I got rid of my harmony setup for the fire cube. It allows one remote for all my AV stuff. I then purchased the elite remote and like it a lot
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57442 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 9:53 am to
quote:

I think HDMI-ARC killed it. The times I needed to pick up anything but the Roku remote while watching TV were close to zero in the last four or five years.

do you not have surround sound? multiple inputs that are not a roku? because ARC does not solve that.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57442 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 9:55 am to
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Yall might scoff at it but I got rid of my harmony setup for the fire cube. It allows one remote for all my AV stuff. I then purchased the elite remote and like it a lot

if you are just useing a streaming box, you do not need a full harmony setup... but if you are running an AV receiver, with say a Shield, PS5, RPi emulator, XBox. you need something to control the receiver.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22168 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 10:00 am to
Nope, I use a Denon 5.1, LG tv, and a fire cube. All are able to be used with one remote
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57442 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 10:03 am to
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Nope, I use a Denon 5.1, LG tv, and a fire cube. All are able to be used with one remote
and any other video inputs? and im oging to dig at you a bit. Shield>firecube
This post was edited on 9/27/23 at 10:04 am
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22168 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 10:34 am to
Shield is a better equipment for streaming but it's a good bit more pricey and you still need a harmony.

I don't know about other inputs but we don't have an issue using a switch on the TV also
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57442 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 10:57 am to
quote:

Shield is a better equipment for streaming but it's a good bit more pricey and you still need a harmony.

you dont need a harmony for a Sheild. it has a bluetooth remote like a fire.
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I don't know about other inputs but we don't have an issue using a switch on the TV also
this is what i do not want to do. I want to click watch tv on my elite and it turns on my tv, turns my receiver to input 4, and the elite controls the shield and the volume on the receiver. Then i can click play PS and it changed the receiver to input 5, and changed the remote to control the PS.


i DO think streaming devices simplified all this as it removed DVS players, Blue Ray players, etc. and MOST people just have a Streaming box and a TV.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22168 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 11:44 am to
I don't have anything else to control so it wasn't needed
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
77981 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 11:52 am to
quote:

but if you are running an AV receiver, with say a Shield, PS5, RPi emulator, XBox. you need something to control the receiver.



This is me...

TV, AVR, Xbox, Switch, PS5, Blu-Ray, FireTV Cube



quote:

this is what i do not want to do. I want to click watch tv on my elite and it turns on my tv, turns my receiver to input 4, and the elite controls the shield and the volume on the receiver. Then i can click play PS and it changed the receiver to input 5, and changed the remote to control the PS.


Yep. I do all that with my Harmony and even set it so I can just say Alexa Play XBox, Alexa Turn on PS5, Alexa Play Nintendo, Alexa Turn off TV, etc...
This post was edited on 9/27/23 at 11:55 am
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