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re: I was ticked off about no options

Posted on 11/6/15 at 1:53 pm to
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 1:53 pm to
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I don't know what I don't know.


Moreso than depth of knowledge, this is really what separates good and bad posters on any technology-related forum. Or, life in general. It's important to know what you don't know, because not knowing what you don't know is the leading cause of the disease known as misinformation.

So, here's something to add to your knowledge base: Do not disable Windows updates. You are not in charge of IT in an enterprise environment, and you don't have full knowledge of what each individual Windows update addresses (and neither do I). Being arbitrarily selective about patches and security updates needlessly puts you at risk for more than just clutter and malware. I'm actually running a version of Windows 10 that lets me disable automatic updates, but I still don't.

Your goal should be to relinquish as much control as possible. I wasn't joking when I mentioned OS X. Other than the cost of the hardware, what preconceived notions prevent you from getting a Mac?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28707 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:16 pm to
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since there are so many options for linux and I'm just a rookie ...any thoughts on which one to test the waters with?
Mint, Ubuntu, Fedora are all good rookie options (I still use Ubuntu, too lazy to switch to something else). These are called "distributions", and each one does its own customization and chooses a desktop environment as default. You can sometimes choose to download different versions of each distribution that sets a different desktop environment as default. I wouldn't fret too much over this decision, since you can install any desktop on any distribution (I have KDE, Gnome, XFCE, and i3 all on the same computer), and switch between them as you like. A lot of people seem to like Linux Mint with the Cinnamon desktop, so to be safe you can go with that.


Also, pretty much all of them are "live" install images. This means you download the distribution, burn the image to DVD, then reboot the machine so that it boots from the DVD. You will then immediately be running a fully-functional Linux desktop to take for a test drive, without modifying the contents of your hard drive at all. Obviously, things are pretty sluggish running this way, but it's just to make sure your hardware is compatible (it almost definitely is). If you want to install to the hard drive, there is usually an icon on the desktop to do so.
Posted by retired trucker
midwest
Member since Feb 2015
5093 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:22 pm to
had an imac back in 1999

used it for a while...but never again thought about getting another one or different mac

heard from a current user in 2012 [ at a workshop in albuquerque ] that she loved her mac book, never asked what version...it looked new. anyways spent some time with her and her bf, macbook in hand. she was quite pleased. and that's great, a nice reco from a nice lady...just not sure if I wanna go back to that mac os thing

right now, I'm dealing with mom...a stroke 2yrs ago and now the benign tumor she had for 60yrs went cancerous so, I got a lot on my plate.

TD serves as a distraction

I appreciate the input...seriously

...
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78036 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:38 pm to
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anyways spent some time with her and her bf, macbook in hand. she was quite pleased.


you ol dog
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
7871 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 6:47 pm to
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He might be the worst person who posts on TD. Not the worst poster, the worst person.


Might be????



Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 6:53 pm to
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I love the command line, but some people are afraid of it. If you are, don't worry, you rarely absolutely have to use it. BUT, if you play with it here and there and learn a few commands and things you can do, you just might begin to hate having to fiddle through half a dozen windows clicking buttons to find what you want to do.


Um ... Windows has a fully-functional command line too. Unlike Linux, it will pipe objects rather than force everything through text.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28707 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 7:15 pm to
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Um ... Windows has a fully-functional command line too.

I have little to no experience with powershell, but I can't imagine it is anywhere near "fully-functional" when compared to what is possible on *nix.

quote:

Unlike Linux, it will pipe objects rather than force everything through text.

Linux doesn't "force" everything through text, it was a design decision made long ago that has worked out pretty well if you ask me. When dealing with objects, you have to know about their structures in order to work with them, correct? And there is no way to standardize objects, because every data structure is different. I don't see the advantage.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:04 pm to
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I have little to no experience with powershell, but I can't imagine it is anywhere near "fully-functional" when compared to what is possible on *nix.


Provided you're working with a Windows machine PS is outstanding. You can easily perform direct Windows API calls, easily work with ADO, COM, .NET and so forth and so on.

It is as functional as perl was for *nix, but for Windows. For example, you can directly manipulate Office objects (Word, Excel, etc.), connect directly with your database of choice, and so on.

Lest I seem too homerish, PS syntax is, let us say, different. On a Windows machine it is much more capable than traditional *ix interpreted scripting languages. But for whatever reason the folks in Redmonds decided to start fresh.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85025 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:23 pm to
Before PS there was activeperl. Still use it on older boxes. Wonderful tool.
Posted by retired trucker
midwest
Member since Feb 2015
5093 posts
Posted on 11/7/15 at 2:32 am to
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Mint, Ubuntu, Fedora are all good rookie options (I still use Ubuntu, too lazy to switch to something else)


thanks...
Posted by retired trucker
midwest
Member since Feb 2015
5093 posts
Posted on 11/7/15 at 2:35 am to
haters gonna hate, it's what makes them tick...
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 11/7/15 at 1:25 pm to
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Before PS there was activeperl. Still use it on older boxes. Wonderful tool.


Agreed.
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