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Hooking up HDMI only device to Component only LCD
Posted on 3/16/15 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 3/16/15 at 3:09 pm
Trying to hook up an Apple TV (HDMI only) to a 10 year old LG LCD TV that has no HDMI. Bought a converter but without really thinking about it....I think it only converts up from RGB to HDMI. Went a'googling and found a cable that has HDMI male/RGB+AV but all the reviews said it didn't work. one said that it had to be used in conjunction with a converter. SOOOOO, before I order any more shite I don't need, I'll ask the experts...
here's the link to what i bought LINKshoulda known better but I was in a hurry
here's the link to what i bought LINKshoulda known better but I was in a hurry
This post was edited on 3/16/15 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 3/16/15 at 3:19 pm to Schmelly
ETA: Great, straight forward title that I didn't read..
I have never seen a component only input, so I have nothing to say here..
Not even a smartass remark
If HB is still around, he will have a definitive solution
I have never seen a component only input, so I have nothing to say here..
Not even a smartass remark
If HB is still around, he will have a definitive solution
This post was edited on 3/16/15 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 3/16/15 at 3:28 pm to Schmelly
I bought a portta converter for the same reason. Did you buy the "HDMI to VGA/RGB" converter? That is the only one of those options that will work for what you want.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 3:32 pm to Trauma14
quote:no I bought the YPbPr to HDMI without thinking about convert up/down. They make a HDMI to YPbPr too?
I bought a portta converter for the same reason. Did you buy the "HDMI to VGA/RGB" converter? That is the only one of those options that will work for what you want.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 3:34 pm to Schmelly
nevermind. looking at my own freakin link. there's dozens of them in all directions and with different types of cables, lol. That's what I get for rushing. I swear every time I come here to ask a question, the answer was right in front of my nose
And of course the one I need is more than twice what the one I need is
And of course the one I need is more than twice what the one I need is
This post was edited on 3/16/15 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 3/16/15 at 5:04 pm to Schmelly
I'd be interested to know if you find something that works well. I have a TV that lost all HDMIs after a lightning strike. My satellite box only has composite and HDMI.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 7:23 pm to GrammarKnotsi
quote:Love the vote of confidence!
If HB is still around, he will have a definitive solution
On the road, so will answer soon.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 12:33 am to Schmelly
First, let me state the obvious: no product in the US can legally take an HDMI signal with HDCP protection and strip out the HDCP protection. So, you aren't going to find something that works so easily.
That device in your link? Did you notice that it is HDCP 1.2 compliant? Well... HDCP 1.2 is sooooo 2006, you know? Today, that is up to HDCP 2.2, meaning that anything you use today is not going to work with that device, unless it was manufactured in 2006 and hasn't received any updates. HDCP 2.3 is right around the corner. LOTS of changes coming.
Something one of my clients pointed me to and I ordered to try out is one of these devices: LINK. It is a 1 in / 2 out splitter that has the unique characteristic of stripping out HDCP. It doesn't advertise such, but in my experience (last month) it actually does. I use a frame grabber card on a computer and a Blu-Ray source. The frame grabber isn't HDCP compliant, so it just gives me blank images because of the HDCP copy protection. When I use this device, the HDCP is stripped out and the frame grabber can provide me with images. The darn little thing actually works!
That doesn't entirely resolve matters, though. You still need to convert the HDMI signal to either VGA or Component. For that, you'll need one of these: LINK. This will convert 1080p HDMI to 1080p or 1080i or 720p, whatever your old LCD can accept. It won't work with an HDMI signal that has HDCP encryption, but since you use the first box to strip out HDCP, it works.
All total, you'll spend about $70-$75, plus cables and shipping, to achieve your goal.
Good luck. Hope you find a use for your old LCD.
That device in your link? Did you notice that it is HDCP 1.2 compliant? Well... HDCP 1.2 is sooooo 2006, you know? Today, that is up to HDCP 2.2, meaning that anything you use today is not going to work with that device, unless it was manufactured in 2006 and hasn't received any updates. HDCP 2.3 is right around the corner. LOTS of changes coming.
Something one of my clients pointed me to and I ordered to try out is one of these devices: LINK. It is a 1 in / 2 out splitter that has the unique characteristic of stripping out HDCP. It doesn't advertise such, but in my experience (last month) it actually does. I use a frame grabber card on a computer and a Blu-Ray source. The frame grabber isn't HDCP compliant, so it just gives me blank images because of the HDCP copy protection. When I use this device, the HDCP is stripped out and the frame grabber can provide me with images. The darn little thing actually works!
That doesn't entirely resolve matters, though. You still need to convert the HDMI signal to either VGA or Component. For that, you'll need one of these: LINK. This will convert 1080p HDMI to 1080p or 1080i or 720p, whatever your old LCD can accept. It won't work with an HDMI signal that has HDCP encryption, but since you use the first box to strip out HDCP, it works.
All total, you'll spend about $70-$75, plus cables and shipping, to achieve your goal.
Good luck. Hope you find a use for your old LCD.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:30 am to HubbaBubba
The only caveat that I'll add to HB's post is that the introduction of a ground loop hum is a possibility in this scenario and getting rid of those buggers can be a nasty little proposition.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:37 am to VABuckeye
quote:
ground loop hum
My composite switch does this, but it's only noticeable when the image is static, like the Roku home screen.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 12:55 pm to h0bnail
Thanks HB, now yall will have to excuse me while my brain finishes melting from reading that
Posted on 3/18/15 at 5:02 am to HubbaBubba
Great post and spot on. I have a device from Monoprice that splits audio from HDMI sources and outputs as SPDIF, and it too strips HDCP secretly.
That having been said, if one is trying to salvage a component-only LCD, spending $75 might not really be worth it when you consider the price of just buying a replacement TV. I am, of course, assuming due to its very old age that it is not a large TV and the picture quality isn't very good considering it's likely an early tech LCD.
That having been said, if one is trying to salvage a component-only LCD, spending $75 might not really be worth it when you consider the price of just buying a replacement TV. I am, of course, assuming due to its very old age that it is not a large TV and the picture quality isn't very good considering it's likely an early tech LCD.
Posted on 3/18/15 at 5:04 am to busbeepbeep
quote:
I've used this product to hook up a aml8726-mx xbmc box up at a friend's house where he had only component run in the walls. It worked fine.
An AML8726-MX running XBMC will not have HDCP protection.
An AppleTV has HDCP protection, thus your solution will not work. See HubbaBubba's post.
Posted on 3/18/15 at 6:45 am to efrad
quote:
That having been said, if one is trying to salvage a component-only LCD, spending $75 might not really be worth it when you consider the price of just buying a replacement TV. I am, of course, assuming due to its very old age that it is not a large TV and the picture quality isn't very good considering it's likely an early tech LCD
Nah, it's a 42 inch LG 720p. Still has a great picture. It was a $3500 tv back in the day... You know, back when I was dumb enough to buy a tv that costs $3500
Posted on 3/18/15 at 10:25 am to efrad
quote:Which product is that? Thanks for the heads up.
I have a device from Monoprice that splits audio from HDMI sources and outputs as SPDIF, and it too strips HDCP secretly.
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