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General questions about rooting.

Posted on 6/11/14 at 12:45 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 12:45 pm
I'm due for an upgrade in a couple weeks and I think I'm going to get a Samsung S4. I always see people refer to how they've rooted their phones so I have some pretty basic questions. What exactly is rooting? Is it useful for someone who does fairly basic smartphone functions? Is it a difficult process? What are some general problems you encounter when rooting/once the phone is rooted? Lay some knowledge on me.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15761 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 12:47 pm to
First, what carrier are you on?
This post was edited on 6/11/14 at 12:48 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 12:53 pm to
Verizon
Posted by h0bnail
Member since Sep 2009
7412 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 1:03 pm to
It's useful for not seeing ads on TD.
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
5070 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 1:52 pm to
Think of rooting your phone as giving yourself the highest level of access rights to your phone. What you do with those access rights is up to you. you can do something as simple as installing an ad blocker app or a data backup app to something as dramatic as changing from the Samsung/Verizon version of Android to a custom version. I suggest doing a search for apps that require root and see if any of them interest you. Personally I will never get a new phone until I know it can be rooted.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 2:12 pm to
Does it improve the speed of your phone? I hear you can delete games and apps that are factory installed and normally can't be deleted. What are some issues that can come up when rooting a phone? I guess I'm trying to weigh the risk/reward before I think about rooting my phone.
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12405 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

I'm due for an upgrade in a couple weeks and I think I'm going to get a Samsung S4.


I would recommend a new M8 for $99 over the S4, but that's just me.

Just lurk the XDA boards for the phone you get and learn as much as you can. Watch the videos, and follow the instructions to root. If you do this, there is no risk. It is very hard, if not impossible, to brick your phone.
Posted by guedeaux
Tardis
Member since Jan 2008
13611 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 3:37 pm to
quote:

I'm due for an upgrade in a couple weeks and I think I'm going to get a Samsung S4. I


I switched from the iPhone to the S4 in November. I am glad I switched to Android, but I wish I had chosen a different phone. Samsung on ATT (and I think Verizon also) is more difficult to root.

Like someone said, I would go with M8 for $99

This post was edited on 6/11/14 at 3:38 pm
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
5070 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 3:48 pm to
Yes, you can delete apps that are in the system partition (factory installed) or just freeze them. This is one of the risks involved, if you delete the wrong system app, you can screw up your phone.

The number 1 rule for the common person about rooting is to always follow the directions of others. XDA devepelopers has a great forum with phone specific areas that you can find out all of the dos and don'ts for your phone. If you spend enough time on there you will greatly minimize your risk. You will also need to make sure you are following the directions for the system update version as well as the phone and carrier.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25098 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 3:54 pm to
If you know what you are doing, rooting shouldn't cause you any problems (there are all in one toolkits that automate the process for pretty much any phone worth having, like the m8). Rooting simply refers to gaining the ability to modify the root directory of the phone. This is where the system files are. Rooting allows you to use certain backup programs, ad blockers, and to mod your phone in some cool ways. You can make your at&t phone stop playing a loud obnoxious mp3 every time you fire it up or allow the phone to tether without a plan. All in all, it is all about being able to customize like you might do on your pc or laptop.
This post was edited on 6/11/14 at 3:56 pm
Posted by Bdog9090
Jackson, MS.
Member since Mar 2010
99 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 4:00 pm to

quote:

I hear you can delete games and apps that are factory installed



Usually the "games and apps" that can't be deleted are in the system partition of your phone. If you delete them, you are deleting them from that partition, which means you won't be able to use that freed space.

What you can do to get that extra space is flash a custom clean rom on your phone that basically takes that extra space and moves it to the usable part of the phone.
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