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Cox 15 mbps vs 50 mbps

Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:50 pm
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:50 pm
I consider myself pretty tech savvy with computers but I don't know too much about internet speeds.

In the process of moving and im going with Cox for TV and internet. I do stream a lot of stuff and do some gaming, but I wouldn't consider myself to be a hardcore gamer.

I already plan on purchasing a DOCSIS 3.0 modem. Would 15 be better for me than 50? It's $75 for 220+ TV channels and 15 mbps, and $90 with the 50. I've heard that higher speeds don't necessarily guarantee better internet, so I am seeking advice.
Posted by bigblake
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:55 pm to
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This post was edited on 8/18/15 at 7:25 am
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:05 pm to
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I wouldn't consider myself to be a hardcore gamer.

Personally, I can't imagine a scenario, other than destitution, in which I'd opt to save $15/mo for the slower connection. However, it's not as though you won't be able to game or stream perfectly well on 15mbps.

Gaming really isn't heavy on bandwidth other than the act of downloading the games, unless you're hosting a server or something. Obviously 50 is better than 15, and in most cases you would absolutely see faster download speeds, but not everyone is downloading files as often as I do (for example, it's nice for me to be able to torrent a 5gb movie in under 10 minutes, whereas it may take 45 minutes or so on a fully-saturated 15mbps connection).

As for streaming, anything that's not 4K will be fine. If you've got a wife and maybe some kids wanting to download or stream other shite at the same time, that's when you run into a problem.

Also, 15mbps on a DOCSIS 3.0 modem almost negates the benefits of DOCSIS 3.0 (not that you should go out and purchase a 2.0 instead).
This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 3:20 pm
Posted by jcole4lsu
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:08 pm to
Check for a data cap. While $15 is well worth the extra speed, it might not be a good deal for you if Cox is providing unlimited internet at 15 Mbps and a cap of something like 250 GB at 50 Mbps.

Suddenlink is currently doing that for its residential customers. Unlimited at 15, 250GB cap at 35, 500GB cap at 50.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:17 pm to
For now (and god I hope it stays that way)... Cox does not enforce its data caps. However, the soft caps in place are 250GB for the 15mbps plan and 350GB for the 50mbps plan. It's 700GB for the 100mbps plan and 2TB for 150mbps and gigapower. They send emails when you exceed the soft cap, but only as a gentle nudge to upgrade to a higher tier speed. I exceed my cap pretty often but I actually don't even receive those emails anymore.
This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 3:19 pm
Posted by corndawg85
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:19 pm to
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Cox for TV


Godspeed
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:25 pm to
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Get the 50 mbps. /thread

Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:29 pm to
Don't have much of a choice there. Cox does TV, phone, and internet for the apartment complex I'm moving to.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:37 pm to
I'm gonna go with the 50 mbps. What DOCSIS modems do y'all go with?

I've seen many people get the Motorola sb6121.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:52 pm to
Might as well get an 8x4, like the SB6141 or the DPC3010, which seems to always have great prices on used models on Amazon, with prime shipping. A few right now for $18.
Posted by jennyjones
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 4:14 pm to
This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 9:01 pm
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 6:33 pm to
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Also, 15mbps on a DOCSIS 3.0 modem almost negates the benefits of DOCSIS 3.0 (not that you should go out and purchase a 2.0 instead).
quote:

Also, 15mbps on a DOCSIS 3.0 modem almost negates the benefits of DOCSIS 3.0 (not that you should go out and purchase a 2.0 instead).


A single channel can carry up to 30 Mbps, but over 10 years of DOCSIS 2 and a couple of houses, Cox would regularly drop to 1 Mbps between 6 PM and 1 AM with massive packet loss. This happened at least yearly and would last for weeks to months, and the only thing that ever fixed it was Cox splitting the nodes to increase capacity. It's the reason I came to think service calls are pointless. The problem was *always* on their end.

Enter DOCSIS 3 a few years ago during one such incident. Flawless performance ever since due to channel bonding (four channels for my SB6120). I've been getting 50 Mbps+ at all times of day and night. I would assume 15 Mbps would benefit similarly. Does anyone with that service level know for sure if channel bonding is done, despite the overall max bandwidth being less than a single channel's capacity? I would guess that it does happen, as my four channels aren't strictly necessary for 50 Mbps.

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