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re: Chromebooks outselling Mac laptops

Posted on 5/25/16 at 10:27 am to
Posted by MapGuy
I was born,I grew older,I'm here
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 10:27 am to
for the chromebook owners in the thread.. how are the graphics?

I do need to run some photoshop and illustrator.. is there a viable chomebook that can handle this?
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 10:41 am to
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This guy gets it. Nobody is talking about replacing a hardcore workstation running video editing tools or AutoCAD.



I've used my chromebook to remote into my workstation to do a little light Revit and AutoCad.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 11:06 am to
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Eta I bet the Apple knee jerkers in this thread have never used or comprehend the concept of a vnc.


Considering it's baked right into OS X, i'd say you're making a terrible assumption

Me IRL:

Posted by whodatdude
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 11:45 am to
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Eta I bet the Apple knee jerkers in this thread have never used or comprehend the concept of a vnc.


It's not so much knee jerking or fanboying, but rather a complete disdain for your constant annoying Apple trolling.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 11:51 am to
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Considering it's baked right into OS X, i'd say you're making a terrible assumption


obviously not directed at you, but the people who think they need an expensive desktop *AND* a $1500+ apple laptop when they're on the road when 95% of what they're needing the laptop for can be done by remoting into their desktop or done on the web using google's apps.
This post was edited on 5/25/16 at 11:55 am
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 11:54 am to
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I do need to run some photoshop and illustrator.. is there a viable chomebook that can handle this?


that goes against the whole philosophy of a chromebook, so no.

anyone who thinks chromebooks are stupid because they can't run apple itunes or adobe illustrator are completely missing the point.

you have to think beyond the knee-jerk "well if i cant game on it and run high powered graphics-intensive apple-only apps then its shite i dont want"

you have to change your mindset or you'll never understand why chromebooks are so popular.

eta
- ridiculously cheap
- ridiculously long battery life compared to any other laptop in existence
- ridiculously simple to use
- ridiculously fast. boots in under 10 seconds.


if apple wasn't so high-and-mighty with their 50%+ industry margins and more true to the idea of making insanely great products, they'd have this market sealed up already because there is a need for this type of computer.
This post was edited on 5/25/16 at 11:57 am
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:12 pm to
Well, with that screenshot I'm on my Air, I'm remoted into my mac mini, which is remoted into my iMac. Don't tell me I don't NEED all this expensive shite.



oh god i have a problem.
Posted by CarRamrod
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:19 pm to
i remote into my HTPC/server/power computer from my laptop while im at all the time using Remote desktop connection.

I want to set it up where i can remote in remotely. I havent looked into how to do it yet. do you have to use some 2nd hand software or is there a port i can open to do this, and log in via a ddns.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:27 pm to
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if apple wasn't so high-and-mighty with their 50%+ industry margins and more true to the idea of making insanely great products, they'd have this market sealed up already because there is a need for this type of computer.


Apple has no interest in making such low end stuff. It wouldn't move the needle for them, and it would hurt their brand. It's simply not a market they care about.

I can't tell if I'm included in the fanboy insults, but just in case, here are my fanboy bona fides. Twenty years ago, I owned a Mac for about a year. The only other Apple product I've owned is my iPod Touch, which is pushing 4 years old. I don't even own $AAPL at the moment.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33893 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:45 pm to
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I want to set it up where i can remote in remotely. I havent looked into how to do it yet. do you have to use some 2nd hand software or is there a port i can open to do this, and log in via a ddns.




In your router setup port forwarding to local port 3389 on the target IP address. For the port range you can use 3389 as well or any other available port.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 1:03 pm to
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I agree. They both come from trees, have an outer skin, have seeds, sold at the same places, within the same color scheme and have a tang to them. They are basically the same.



Apples cant be zested...
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 1:16 pm to
so then would i access it via a browser or through remote desktop and enter in the ip:port?
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 1:35 pm to
Are you talking Chromebook? Just install the chrome remote desktop app and install the little chrome remote utility on your PC. That's it.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33893 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 2:05 pm to
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remote desktop and enter in the ip:port


Kinda, you have to use 2x or another remote client, but I would also set up a ddns.

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Are you talking Chromebook? Just install the chrome remote desktop app and install the little chrome remote utility on your PC. That's it.


Cad and I went separate directions. It's been at least a year but I wasn't a fan of chrome remote.

This post was edited on 5/25/16 at 2:09 pm
Posted by WITNESS23
Member since Feb 2010
13722 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 2:18 pm to
I believe it. Can't beat the price.

I've had 3 Mac laptops and love them but my next will be a chromebook.

The chromebook costs as much as a new damn battery for a mac.
Posted by CAD703X
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 2:57 pm to
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Apple has no interest in making such low end stuff. It wouldn't move the needle for them, and it would hurt their brand. It's simply not a market they care about.


That doesn't make sense based on everything I know about Steve Jobs.

His vision of changing the world from back in the 1980s sees a future where the entry point into an apple computer in 2016 starts at $1,500?

You don't think that Apple cares about an insanely great sub $200 laptop that can blanket the world in their ecosystem?

Apple computer pricing has remained virtually the same for 20 years. Incredible.

I get selling a premium product to the faithful for huge margins is in their interests but if they were true to their former vision they would be embracing the Chromebook phenomenon and releasing their own alternative.

Instead they have accepted the status quo and are content to rake in huge profits in a complete philosophical 180 from their 1984 commercial message.

I have no problem with Apple's approach to making money..but to wrap themselves in the smug blanket that they are the underdog and want to change the world is sickening.
Posted by lsujro
north of the wall
Member since Jul 2007
3921 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 3:21 pm to
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I have no problem with Apple's approach to making money..but to wrap themselves in the smug blanket that they are the underdog and want to change the world is sickening.


i'd argue you care more about apple than any fanboy on here

a tech company wants to make money. the horror!
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 3:28 pm to
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That doesn't make sense based on everything I know about Steve Jobs.

His vision of changing the world from back in the 1980s sees a future where the entry point into an apple computer in 2016 starts at $1,500?

You don't think that Apple cares about an insanely great sub $200 laptop that can blanket the world in their ecosystem?

Apple computer pricing has remained virtually the same for 20 years. Incredible.

I get selling a premium product to the faithful for huge margins is in their interests but if they were true to their former vision they would be embracing the Chromebook phenomenon and releasing their own alternative.

Instead they have accepted the status quo and are content to rake in huge profits in a complete philosophical 180 from their 1984 commercial message.

I have no problem with Apple's approach to making money..but to wrap themselves in the smug blanket that they are the underdog and want to change the world is sickening.


That's so out to lunch I'm not even going to try to unravel it. For all I can tell, it's a troll. If, however, you are sincere and want to learn the correct way to think about things, read my prior posts until they sink in.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 3:51 pm to
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His vision of changing the world from back in the 1980s sees a future where the entry point into an apple computer in 2016 starts at $1,500?


11" MacBook Air starts at $899

quote:

You don't think that Apple cares about an insanely great sub $200 laptop that can blanket the world in their ecosystem?


They didn't with netbooks, they might with chrome books, but I don't think so. I think Google is even showing that the browser as an OS isn't mass-tenable by bringing android apps to chromeOS.

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Apple computer pricing has remained virtually the same for 20 years. Incredible.






Apple PowerBook 1400cs
Introduction Date: November 20, 1996
Original Starting Price (US): US$2500
Adjusted for Inflation: $3,852.19

13" MacBook Pro
Introduction Date: March 9, 2015
Original starting price: $1,299

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I get selling a premium product to the faithful for huge margins is in their interests but if they were true to their former vision they would be embracing the Chromebook phenomenon and releasing their own alternative...


Their answer for this, like it or not, is the $269 iPad mini.

quote:

I have no problem with Apple's approach to making money..but to wrap themselves in the smug blanket that they are the underdog and want to change the world is sickening.


THEY'RE BEING OUTSOLD BY CHROMEBOOKS (and Android and Windows and Roku) BUT THEY'RE NOT THE UNDERDOG???? Isn't that the whole point of this thread? That they are not the top dog? TBH, they've never been the top dog in any hardware market sans iPod.
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 11:32 pm
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 3:53 pm to
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CAD703X
quote:

I have no problem with Apple's approach to making money..but to wrap themselves in the smug blanket that they are the underdog and want to change the world is sickening.
This post was edited on 5/25/16 at 3:55 pm
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