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Cat6 to hdmi conversion

Posted on 9/7/14 at 9:51 pm
Posted by LSUTigerDoc
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
580 posts
Posted on 9/7/14 at 9:51 pm
Wise sages of the tech board, I need your help.

On my outdoor patio, my av components are approx 40 feet from my television. For this reason, during construction, I chose to run several separate cat6 cables from the av component closet to the television location. From here on, pardon my ignorance. I have used the powered cat6 to hdmi converters, one on the receiver end and one at the tv end. They seem to work for only several months, then I lose video feed. Replacement of one or both converters fixes the issue...temporarily. Am I doing something wrong? Do I have any other options? In case you're wondering, running additional wiring of any type from component cabinet to tv is impossible at this point.

Thanks in advance for your help.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45786 posts
Posted on 9/7/14 at 9:57 pm to
Did you use shielded Cat 6 or unshielded? Always use shielded.
Posted by LSUTigerDoc
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
580 posts
Posted on 9/7/14 at 9:59 pm to
I used shielded.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45786 posts
Posted on 9/7/14 at 10:06 pm to
What brand cable? What brand/model extender pair?

Rather than regurgitate everything it can possibly be, just read through this presentation from CEDIA. it describes in intricate detail everything you ever wanted to know about HDMI, the problems associated with HDCP and EDID.

Once you read through this and follow the process of elimination, you should be able totrack down your issue.

HDMI Fun Facts
This post was edited on 9/7/14 at 10:24 pm
Posted by LSUTigerDoc
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
580 posts
Posted on 9/7/14 at 10:25 pm to
Don't know the brand of the cable. The converters are FyreStorm EX 1UTP IR 40.
Posted by LSUTigerDoc
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
580 posts
Posted on 9/7/14 at 10:30 pm to
Thanks HB!
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45786 posts
Posted on 9/7/14 at 10:46 pm to
Okay, don't take offense, but the brand of extenders you have are not very good quality from checking specs. These are good out to about 130' under extremely optimal conditions. In other words, they likely can't handle slight deviations.

If you determine to replace these, our company has had extremely good results with Hall Research products, including this extender set that has an HDBaseT receiver and is good out to 100 meters (330'). LINK
Posted by LSUTigerDoc
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
580 posts
Posted on 9/7/14 at 10:51 pm to
Again, HB, my thanks!
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35573 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 7:09 am to
Shielded vs unshielded cable doesn't matter for this application.

Don't buy crap converters is the answer and make sure you do the calibration of the converter when you install it. If you don't follow the calibration you will burn up the balun.

Gefen is the brand I'd recommend. They cost more but have been trouble free when I've installed them.
Posted by Coater
Madison, MS
Member since Jun 2005
33065 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 8:40 am to
I bought a sabrent a couple weeks ago after my no-name adapter went out on me after about 3 years
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45786 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 8:58 am to
quote:

Shielded vs unshielded cable doesn't matter for this application.
From Geffen website:

quote:

Note: Shielded (STP) CAT-5e or CAT-6 is recommended. Unshielded (UTP) CAT-5e or CAT-6 may be acceptable depending on cable quality but is not the best choice. Care should always be given to keep these cables away from power lines and other sources of electromagnetic interference.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35573 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 9:45 am to
quote:

Care should always be given to keep these cables away from power lines and other sources of electromagnetic interference


The CAT6 should be run at least 18" away from power and if it crosses power it should be at a 90 degree cross. If these simple rules are followed there is no reason to pay for shielded cable. I've been doing this shite for over 20 years and my people run cables in data centers on a daily basis.

If the installer ran the cable with power then he is an idiot.
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35113 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:11 am to
Buy better HDMI baluns
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45786 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:29 am to
What's your business?
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35573 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:51 am to
Used to do home automation. We still do that some but our primary business is data center cabling. Cabling, rack & stack, ladder rack, fiber duct, snake tray, cage builds.
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