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Casey Neistat's Apple Vision Pro review

Posted on 2/3/24 at 6:12 pm
Posted by iPadThai
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Posted on 2/3/24 at 6:12 pm
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Everyone on the street, in the subway and inside the stores are looking at him like he is the human Tesla Cybertruck
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Posted by barbapapa
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Posted on 2/3/24 at 7:23 pm to
looks to be a winner
Posted by Ricardo
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Posted on 2/3/24 at 8:02 pm to
I'm going to reserve judgment on the Vision Pro. I didn't think the original iphone/smartphone would ever catch on. I find myself thinking the same things about the new headset from Apple. It just seems like a toy for nerds. Doesn't seem like something we'll all want to use.

That being said, there might be some use case that I'm just not able to imagine. Like I didn't think, social media, would captivate so many people. I realize I'm not the target audience of this generation of devices, but eventually it might be good enough.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 2/3/24 at 8:46 pm to
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It just seems like a toy for nerds. Doesn't seem like something we'll all want to use.


You need to develop apps and it's hard to get any money behind that when you don't have a user base yet.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
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Posted on 2/4/24 at 7:27 am to
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. It just seems like a toy for nerds. Doesn't seem like something we'll all want to use.


That's because it is. I remember when the glasses came out. That faded quickly

It's clear apple has dumped tremendous money into advertising

It's not reasonable to expect your average person to purchase this at the current cost
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/4/24 at 8:06 am to
People wearing these things look like a fricking Wes Anderson movie with the cable sticking out
Posted by Ricardo
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Posted on 2/4/24 at 8:21 am to
I could see something like this with medicine. Would make a cool diagnostic/interventional tool if a physician can basically load xrays/scans and see inside of the person in real time. Safer surgery, robotic guided hands, etc. Augmented reality will be a very cool thing, but I don't know how soon it will be everywhere.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 2/4/24 at 8:26 am to
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I'm going to reserve judgment on the Vision Pro


We've had VR headsets for years. They're only really a thing for gaming and flying drones....
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 2/4/24 at 11:54 am to
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I'm going to reserve judgment on the Vision Pro. I didn't think the original iphone/smartphone would ever catch on. I find myself thinking the same things about the new headset from Apple. It just seems like a toy for nerds.


Gen 1 probably is. At the very least it needs to both lose weight and have the battery in the headset. But Apple made this a sleeper hit when they decided to make it “spatial computing” rather than just another VR/AR headset. There are so many practical uses for this beyond entertainment and that simple name change opened it up beyond entertainment IMO.

Combine this with image/visual AI seeing what you see, and you can have live expert help with whatever you’re doing. If you’re a mechanic, instead of having to look repair procedures up, you can have instructions live on screen pointing out what to do. This would apply to pretty much any field.

Business cases aren’t typically Apple’s primary market. But they’re just building the platform and App Store, other companies will come up with the Virtual AI Expert apps. That’s how it will become more than a toy for nerds.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 2/4/24 at 7:33 pm to
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Apple made this a sleeper hit when they decided to make it “spatial computing” rather than just another VR/AR headset. There are so many practical uses for this beyond entertainment and that simple name change opened it up beyond entertainment IMO.


You do realize meta has done this already, right? They've had an app for multiple screens including web browsing for years.


Hell I had a Samsung Gear VR that allowed me to browse the internet and watch YouTube videos.


Seems like meta is a bit ahead of apple but Americans are quite apple-centric in their opinions.
Posted by lynxcat
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Posted on 2/4/24 at 9:02 pm to
I think Casey is spot on for where this is going. It’s eventually some version of glasses that replaces everything else and is an extension of the person.
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 2/4/24 at 9:04 pm to
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You do realize meta has done this already, right? They've had an app for multiple screens including web browsing for years.


You seem to have completely misread what I posted. I didn't say they came up with special new technology. I said they branded it differently so people wouldn't look at it like just another VR/AR device, which to most people means games and entertainment.

Apple doesn't create technology, they create markets by simplifying and refining what's out there already. It's stupid how much I'm seeing people talk about Vision Pro on twitter.

Also, this isn't a Quest killer, this is the device that will help create the market for both Apple and Meta. Just like what the iPhone did for Google and Android.
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 2/5/24 at 9:51 am to
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We've had VR headsets for years. They're only really a thing for gaming and flying drones....


the headsets that drone operators wear aren't VR headsets... I got a little back hand and "lesson" from our drone pilot the other day, their headsets are "FPV headsets" (First Person View) - they can't have anything to do with virtual anything, they are just a fancy screen basically that connects to 1 cameras and gives you a much better 1 to 1 ratio feedback.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 2/5/24 at 5:08 pm to
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I think Casey is spot on for where this is going. It’s eventually some version of glasses that replaces everything else and is an extension of the person.


Watch the MKB video on the "spectrum" of AR/VR.


You can see Meta uses the same range, at one end you have the full of immersion in a gaming headset like the quest, and at the other end you have the glasses like the Meta ray bans which are light and simple on the face unlike the goggle headsets.


You can see how Meta is moving from both ends of the spectrum maybe hoping to meet in the middle, while apple is sort of trying to start at the "middle", even though I think apples is just trying to get into the game period before others take over.

The biggest problem is they're still far away from normies getting involved on any significant level outside of just messing with some interesting tech. They have yet to really master a real world use case that would get people to flock to VR/AR/spatial computing,etc.


Battery tech and thermal issues will be the largest barrier.


There are much more interesting headsets out there right now that very few people know about.
This post was edited on 2/5/24 at 5:10 pm
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 2/5/24 at 6:05 pm to
Fair point, and accurate...
Posted by jp4lsu
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:38 am to
I haven't seen Ready Player One or Black Mirror, but I'm told this is where we look to be heading.

These people look like fools.
So lets live in a make believe world that we care more about than the real world.
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:00 am to
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So lets live in a make believe world that we care more about than the real world.


That's not what this is. Or at least that's not all this is. What I've seen people gush over the most is how this gives you the best screens, whether it's a multi screen set up for your computer, or an impossibly big screen TV in your living room for watching movies or playing games.



Now, could you buy a similar set up with real TVs and monitors for $3500 or less? That's not a question early adopters tend to ask themselves. Nobody is expecting this to become ubiquitous at this price point and this form factor. It will get smaller, lighter, cheaper and more useful over time.
Posted by latech15
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 7:41 pm to
I bought them yesterday. I can’t say enough good things about them. Sure, a little heavy on the cheekbones, but utterly amazing in every other way. The spacial video is simply unreal. It reminds me of that futuristic Tom cruise movie (forgot the name) where he keeps replaying a movie of his dead wife. If I remember correctly, it was a hologram in the room. That is what this is like. The demo video on Apple TV is a singer in a studio and I swear I’m in that room. The video quality is great and you can look all around. I shot some video with it at my house and while the lighting wasn’t as good, the experience was.

I’ve used it for a few hours for actual work, email on the ceiling, browser on one wall, music and YouTube on the other. Typing takes some getting used to, and I’m currently updating my Mac OS so I can bring my Mac screen into the vision world. I expect to use it quite a bit in that mode.

I wish it would recognize your other Apple products, watch, phone etc and bring them in. Interestingly enough, there isn’t a clock in the thing.

FaceTiming someone with a phone is great on this end. The live emoji or whatever they see isn’t good, but better than nothing for them I guess. My daughter likes to have company while she is cooking so she just sets her phone up and FaceTimes me. I put her off to one side and you would swear she was cooking in the room beside me.

Can’t wait for flight sim apps. You do have to use a browser to watch anything but Disney, HBO, and Apple TV which isn’t ideal but work able.


Posted by barbapapa
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Posted on 2/7/24 at 10:10 am to
that movie would be Minority Report
Posted by DJNOS1978
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Posted on 2/7/24 at 10:24 am to
Not true. DOD uses VR to train employees in some jobs. And now industrial plants are also implementing this in training for operators. Now with this said imagine a team of engineers and contractors virtually viewing the layout or projected construction of a new site. Or the changes to existing sites It's still very early to make judgement calls on tech. It advances too quick. But of course we have to ask. It is feasible vs cost? IDK to be honest.
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