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ATT Fiber internet router or use your own router with IP passthrough. - UPDATE
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:11 pm
For those of us that are lucky enough to be getting gigabit internet from ATT, are you using the required Pace router? or are you running it through IP Passthrough mode and using your own router?
As of now i am using the Pace router because i read that in IP Passthrough you lost about 1/2 of your speed. But now im reading different.
The interface on the Pace is weak, the port forwarding procedure is confusing and unnecessary, and I know Netgears interface much better.
What are yall using?
UPDATE:
I ended up contacting ATT and got the newer BGW210-700 sent to me. i have had it setup for a few days now and was having some issues with lagging video over wifi.
Lucky i found this thread with people saying this router is able to do ip pass through and attach your own router and still get your 900+mb/s.
So still any geeks know id a nighthawk r7000's router ability is better than the BGW210? Should i ip passthrough or just use the nighthawk as the wifi AP?
10/24/18 UPDATE - I bumped this for all the people asking about mesh systems with ATT Fiber. I ask you to read this whole thread, and read the thread i linked. Then try it out for yourself to see if you get better results. I ended up giving up.
As of now i am using the Pace router because i read that in IP Passthrough you lost about 1/2 of your speed. But now im reading different.
The interface on the Pace is weak, the port forwarding procedure is confusing and unnecessary, and I know Netgears interface much better.
What are yall using?
UPDATE:
I ended up contacting ATT and got the newer BGW210-700 sent to me. i have had it setup for a few days now and was having some issues with lagging video over wifi.
Lucky i found this thread with people saying this router is able to do ip pass through and attach your own router and still get your 900+mb/s.
So still any geeks know id a nighthawk r7000's router ability is better than the BGW210? Should i ip passthrough or just use the nighthawk as the wifi AP?
10/24/18 UPDATE - I bumped this for all the people asking about mesh systems with ATT Fiber. I ask you to read this whole thread, and read the thread i linked. Then try it out for yourself to see if you get better results. I ended up giving up.
This post was edited on 10/24/18 at 8:49 am
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Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:19 pm to CarRamrod
quote:
For those of us that are lucky enough to be getting gigabit internet from ATT, are you using the required Pace router? or are you running it through IP Passthrough mode and using your own router?
As of now i am using the Pace router because i read that in IP Passthrough you lost about 1/2 of your speed. But now im reading different.
The interface on the Pace is weak, the port forwarding procedure is confusing and unnecessary, and I know Netgears interface much better.
What are yall using?
They won't allow you to use your own 256QAM modem?
Posted on 10/24/17 at 3:01 pm to 50_Tiger
quote:first i dont know what the designation 256QAM means. But no they do not let you use anything other than their supplied modem/router.
They won't allow you to use your own 256QAM modem?
So people either use it or use the passthrough mode and use their own router. Im seeing what are other peoples results with this.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 3:09 pm to CarRamrod
surely there are aftermarket routers that are better than what AT&T provides.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 3:20 pm to bbap
quote:right but you cant use them. fiber to the house you have to use their modem/router. Something about a certificate package required between modem and att.
surely there are aftermarket routers that are better than what AT&T provides.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 3:34 pm to CarRamrod
All I know is my Pace router has been screwing up constantly. It's like I've reached some sort of device limit and it keeps booting things of the 5ghz network.
After they have been booted the device can no longer see the 5ghz network until things shuffle around and something else gets booted off.
After they have been booted the device can no longer see the 5ghz network until things shuffle around and something else gets booted off.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 4:17 pm to CarRamrod
I have fiber through Eatel and they asked if I wanted to use their Pace router. I didn’t have to unless I was also receiving TV service. I simply plugged in my own router right to the fiber box coming from outside.
eta: not saying AT&T is the same, but have you tried it?
eta: not saying AT&T is the same, but have you tried it?
This post was edited on 10/24/17 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 10/24/17 at 5:54 pm to CarRamrod
im using both. i use the nighthawk router for wireless connections and the at&t one for plugging wired connections. And that 1gb download connection is the 
This post was edited on 10/24/17 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 10/24/17 at 8:32 pm to CarRamrod
frick you. Seriously. frick you. Where do you live? I want fiber so bad.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 10:44 pm to FLObserver
so you are using it as a access point. I really want to try out the passthrough i just have a ton of stuff i would nee to change.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 6:49 am to CarRamrod
Uhh I use their Pace as my modem, but the ATT tech himself hooked up my Asus Router twice, on two different installations ( I cancelled the first time.)
Posted on 10/25/17 at 7:40 am to CarRamrod
quote:
first i dont know what the designation 256QAM means. But no they do not let you use anything other than their supplied modem/router.
QAM (Quadrature Amplitude Modulation) is simply passband modulation.
256QAM allows for up to 8 bits per symbol or a 1/8th symbol rate. This allows in your case digital 0's and 1's to be processed at an alarming rate.
Typically once you cross the 300MB threshold, most ISP's will force you to use their modem/router or combo due to the fact that people don't know that you need a modem capable of demodulating the signal at the proper rate. A 64QAM modem would give you absolutely awful throughput on a 1GB line.
Arris/Motorola and some other companies sell 256QAM modems instead of using the one ATT provides.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 8:56 am to 50_Tiger
I know they have it coming to my area soon. Some AT&T reps knocked on my door a few weeks ago. It seriously has me thinking about uncutting the cord if I can get fiber and U-Verse for a decent price. I'm already paying too much for internet with Charter since I'm past my introductory rate. I currently have an Archer C7 router. Would this work with Fiber for my wifi devices? I think I would relocate my hookup so the computer would be hardwired and possibly run a line to where my TV is and upgrade to the FireTV and get off the stick.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 9:03 am to TU Rob
quote:
I know they have it coming to my area soon. Some AT&T reps knocked on my door a few weeks ago. It seriously has me thinking about uncutting the cord if I can get fiber and U-Verse for a decent price. I'm already paying too much for internet with Charter since I'm past my introductory rate. I currently have an Archer C7 router. Would this work with Fiber for my wifi devices? I think I would relocate my hookup so the computer would be hardwired and possibly run a line to where my TV is and upgrade to the FireTV and get off the stick.
My current router ASUS 3200 is a three channel router that separates legacy / dual band / 802.11ac products to keep the channels clean.
Your archer unit should be okay.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 9:16 am to 50_Tiger
well modems are rather cheap. to get the full gigabit i would have to get a new modem. but thats not the answer im looking for.
I have the Nighthawk R7000 which isnt top of the line anymore but the range is better than the pace and im assuming the routing ability is batter as well. If i am wrong on that assumption, i will nix all this and just set it up as a AP.
Im still not sold on the mesh systems yet.
I have the Nighthawk R7000 which isnt top of the line anymore but the range is better than the pace and im assuming the routing ability is batter as well. If i am wrong on that assumption, i will nix all this and just set it up as a AP.
Im still not sold on the mesh systems yet.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 9:59 am to CarRamrod
I don't have ATT Fiber, but I have ATT Uverse 100 that requires a PACE 5268ac modem/gateway thing. My apartment in Houston isn't wired for Comcast so the ATT Uverse 50/100 are my only options.
I successfully was able to use my Asus RT-AC1900. Here's the steps I did. Typed them up to send to a friend a couple months ago.
I successfully was able to use my Asus RT-AC1900. Here's the steps I did. Typed them up to send to a friend a couple months ago.
quote:
Assuming your gateway is using 192.168.1.xxx subnet.
Have a computer wired to the gateway. Hook up your Asus router to the LAN port 1 of your gateway and power it on. Now reboot the gateway. Once the gateway is up, head over to https:// 192.168.1.254 in your browser and go to Settings > Firewall > Applications, Pinholes and DMZ. Once there, select your Asus router device on the list of devices. After it is selected, check the bubble for DMZ+ mode and click save. Go to your wireless settings on gateway and disable your Pace's wireless network (both 2.4g and 5.0g) so that it is no longer active.
Now power off your Asus and reboot your Pace gateway. Once it is fully booted up, power on the Asus once again.
Use a wireless or wired device to connect to your asus.
Go to the asus admin page (usually 192.168.1.1), confirm you can access the router.
See if there's a WAN IP...should say connected and have a public IP shown.
If you got this far, it's good.
Now you need to change the address on the Asus from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.2.1. Then it should automatically update its DHCP tables, and you should be good to go to connect everything thru the Asus
Add one more step
Was having terrible LAN performance on the wireless devices, like couldn't even stream a local media file from my desktop.
Solution: Turn off IPv6
"Just make sure to turn off IPv6 in both the 5268ac and your router."
This post was edited on 10/25/17 at 10:01 am
Posted on 10/25/17 at 10:05 am to busbeepbeep
yea i have read all that. thats the passthrough procedure.
Being that you dont have gigabit i cant get you to check something but i first read that doing that would cut down your bandwidth, then i read it doesnt. thats what im looking for.
Being that you dont have gigabit i cant get you to check something but i first read that doing that would cut down your bandwidth, then i read it doesnt. thats what im looking for.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 10:09 am to CarRamrod
Why do you want it in passthrough vs shutting off the Wifi from ATT and using that router as a modem only to feed to your Netgear router in AP mode?
That's what I used to do and didn't notice that speed was cut in half by any means. Haven't tried it on 1 Gbps internet yet though so can't help you there.
That's what I used to do and didn't notice that speed was cut in half by any means. Haven't tried it on 1 Gbps internet yet though so can't help you there.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 10:14 am to Big Saint
I am assuming the nighthhawk is a better router than the internal pace router. (IDK if im right or wrong) Plus i like Netgear Genie over that crap ATT Pace interface.
Im am going to set up my mighthawk for the time being as an AP, until i find out that answer.
But now i have a question for you. Why are people turning off the Wifi on the pace and just using the AP? Is it because they are pluging them into next to each other and do not want interference?
Im planing on putting it on the other side of my house and using both units WiFi for great coverage all over my house.
Im am going to set up my mighthawk for the time being as an AP, until i find out that answer.
But now i have a question for you. Why are people turning off the Wifi on the pace and just using the AP? Is it because they are pluging them into next to each other and do not want interference?
Im planing on putting it on the other side of my house and using both units WiFi for great coverage all over my house.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 10:16 am to CarRamrod
quote:Sorry, wish I could test the gigabit for you
Being that you dont have gigabit i cant get you to check something but i first read that doing that would cut down your bandwidth, then i read it doesnt. thats what im looking for.
The passthrough procedure didn't cut my 100mbps in half. I like this method as all the DHCP and port forwarding handled by my Asus running Merlin.
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