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Are we at the tipping point for Flash Storage? Intel unveils new 3D NAND Flash

Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:05 am
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:05 am
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Micron and Intel Unveil New 3D NAND Flash Memory Technology Advancements Enable Three Times More Capacity than Other NAND Technologies


3D NAND technology uses floating gate cells and enables the highest-density flash device ever developed—three times higher capacity1 than other NAND die in production.

Enables gum stick-sized SSDs with more than 3.5 terabytes (TB) of storage and standard 2.5-inch SSDs with greater than 10TB.

Innovative process architecture techniques extend Moore's Law for flash storage, bringing significant improvements in density while lowering the cost of NAND flash.


Look for it to be hitting consumer electronics at the end of the year, early next year.
Posted by BaddestAndvari
That Overweight Racist State
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:20 am to
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Are we at the tipping point for Flash Storage? Intel unveils new 3D NAND Flash


now if only someone could actually make a breakthrough in battery technology
Posted by GFunk
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:22 am to
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BaddestAndvari
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now if only someone could actually make a breakthrough in battery technology


If nothing else, this would allow you to sacrifice more space that was originally dedicated to storage and give it to the battery. Win-Win!
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:42 am to
anyone know if the smaller NAND process decreases energy usage like CPU die shrinks?
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 12:02 pm to
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anyone know if the smaller NAND process decreases energy usage like CPU die shrinks?



Usually, but die shrinks are not the only ingredient in power efficiency, since it also matters what's on that die, but the smaller the die, the less voltage that needs to be applied to X number of transistors. However, considering that SSDs only consume about 3 watts at peak usage, it's hardly a concern.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:28 pm to
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If nothing else, this would allow you to sacrifice more space that was originally dedicated to storage and give it to the battery.


I'm convinced there is a conspiracy almost identical to that light bulb bullshite from the early 20th century where all the manufacturers got together and decided not to make a light bulb that would last longer than x number of hours, despite that the technology allowed it, just to frick consumers.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 4:06 am to
What advantage would that give them though? Are they colluding with socket makers?
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27824 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 7:48 am to
Battery improvement has sucked for decades. It's never been on a exponential improvement. Always linear and somewhat decreasing curve. I think we should do something like the matrix and have our bodies provide the energy connection to devices.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 6:26 am to
Would be a great way to burn calories.
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 7:34 pm to
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 9:58 am to
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Battery improvement has sucked for decades. It's never been on a exponential improvement.

the problem is not that batteries aren't improving but they are just barely keeping pace with the extra demands we put on a device.

and to the OP, we already hit the tipping point for flash. its everywhere already, this just makes it more compelling.

Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 1:40 pm to
I imagine batteries have to go through much more rigorous testing than anything else in a device, since batteries are explosive. More energy density means even more potential to harm the user. That, and cost, are probably the primary reasons the improvements are so incremental.

Also, we won't reach the tipping point for flash until there is no reason to use hard drives or any other storage. It will be a very long time before the spinning disk is obsolete, and it'll probably be dictated by demand rather than cost.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 9:28 pm to
It will be interesting to see how this is priced considering they can make 10 TB modules.

ETA: By tipping point I mean the majority of consumer storage by bit being SSD rather than HDD.
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 9:38 pm
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 12:34 pm to
A somewhat workable solution is to improve charging times for batteries. If you could charge in a minute, longer life is rarely needed
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 7:08 pm to
Agreed
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