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Apple's Share of Smartphone Industry Profit Rises to 92%

Posted on 7/13/15 at 11:48 am
Posted by iPadThai
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 11:48 am
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A new report out over the weekend by Canaccord Genuity estimates that Apple has recorded a 92 percent share of the world's entire smartphone market in the first quarter of 2015, which is up from 65 percent a year earlier. The company managed to do so on less than 20 percent of actual smartphone sales, which the Wall Street Journal accounts to the company's "ability to command much higher prices for its phones."

Behind Apple was Samsung with a total of 15 percent of the smartphone market, with the two combining to tally up for more than 100 percent of the industry's profits, "because other makers broke even or lost money, in Canaccord’s calculations." In the early days of the iPhone, Canaccord estimates that Nokia was holding two-thirds of the smartphone industry's profits, but by 2012, Apple and Samsung shared the industry's profits at a nearly exact 50/50 split.

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Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 11:52 am to
I don't understand +100%
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 12:04 pm to
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"ability to command much higher prices for its phones."


Sure it doesn't have a low end, but it's got pretty standard pricing for a flagship phone. Does it really have that much better deals from it's suppliers? Or maybe it's that the lack of an SD Card slot forces more customers to upgrade? IE Android owners buy more base models? I'm sure Apple does make a pretty penny charging $100 more for 48GB of storage.
Posted by seawolf06
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 12:38 pm to
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I don't understand +100%


It is literally in the same sentence.

"because other makers broke even or lost money, in Canaccord’s calculations."
Posted by colorchangintiger
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 1:06 pm to
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 1:08 pm to
Samsung might as well just hang it up.

Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 1:12 pm to
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It is literally in the same sentence.

"because other makers broke even or lost money, in Canaccord’s calculations."


Still doesn't make sense. How could you have over 100% of total profits? 100% is the total profits.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 1:20 pm to
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How could you have over 100% of total profits? 100% is the total profits.


Because of the money losers.

Money losing phone manufacturers = -$10
Apple and Samsung combined = $110
Total industry profits = $100

So Apple and Samsung combined make more than the net profit of the entire industry.
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 1:21 pm to
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Still doesn't make sense. How could you have over 100% of total profits? 100% is the total profits.



Because you can have negative profits. Multiple handset makers are losing money, thus the profits made by Apple and Samsung is greater than the total. The article is talking about profit, not revenue.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 1:32 pm to
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The article is talking about profit, not revenue.


got it.
Posted by Street Hawk
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 1:32 pm to
This is absolutely insane, but what’s more insane is the litany of people that will still cling to the idea that Android’s market share will matter. Any day now...
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 1:46 pm to
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This is absolutely insane, but what’s more insane is the litany of people that will still cling to the idea that Android’s market share will matter. Any day now...


the lack of knowledge in this thread is entertaining...

Showing profits isnt always a good thing. Sometimes you dont want to pay taxes...
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 1:57 pm to
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Apple has recorded a 92 percent share of the world's entire smartphone market in the first quarter of 2015


Yeah, that's not true at all.
Posted by AZTarheeel
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 7/19/15 at 5:58 am to
Android has a larger market share because they have many device manufacturers that sell cheap phones to all of the poor people in the US and around the world. Apple has a larger profit share because they only sell high priced/high margin devices. Neither one of these points is news to anybody.

A meaningful comparison would be to see the market share for high end smart phones from Samsung/LG/HTC/etc and Apple. I'm sure Apple would probably have at least half of that market.
Posted by BhamDore
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Posted on 7/19/15 at 4:00 pm to
Apple sells cheap dated hardware at premium prices as they have no real competition while Android OEMs all sell highend expensive hardware with 16 or 20 mega pixel camera sensors and Quad HD Amoled displays.

Apple basically sales ford Mustangs for Ferrari prices and people are willing to buy their products.

They also have ridiculous deals with carriers where carriers have to commit to purchasing so many iphones regardless if they can sale them or not. Carriers also have to agree to a certain amount of advertising dollars be spent on apple products so Apple doesn't have to spend as much.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 7/19/15 at 5:07 pm to
Profit>market share
Posted by Street Hawk
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 7/19/15 at 5:17 pm to
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cheap dated hardware at premium prices as they have no real competition while Android OEMs all sell highend expensive hardware with 16 or 20 mega pixel camera sensors and Quad HD Amoled displays.


No lag iOS experience beats all those specs. OEMs still can't figure out how to make their OS lag free after all these years. Maybe they should just stop putting stupid skins on top of vanilla Android taxing the HW unnecessarily. Also I can't believe it took Google until Android M to figure out how to improve Android devices' stand by battery life.
Posted by sgallo3
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Posted on 7/19/15 at 7:33 pm to
not surprising, the other manufacturers have to dump more money into more expensive technology to compete with each other for Androids market share
Posted by BhamDore
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:04 pm to
Specs are a guideline for consumers on how much a product should cost there are plenty of low-end devices that run buttery smooth on Android. The Motorola E and G series are perfect examples.
Just because you can make a product run well with cheap hardware doesn't mean you can call it premium and rape consumers.

They mostly rape carriers though. Sprint and Verizon mostly. They both were desperate back in 2010 when ATT had the iPhone exclusively. They overpaid and we're made to over extended themselves. One year Verizon had to pay 14 billion dollars to apple for unsold iphones. Tmobile held out and got a much more favorable deal, but lost millions of customers who wanted iphones in the mean time.

Apple is the absolute goat company at actually doing business. There products are mostly mediocre, but their brand power and business acumen are unrivaled.
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 7/20/15 at 8:08 pm to
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There products are mostly mediocre,
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