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Apple's share of global smartphone profits rises to 94 percent
Posted on 11/17/15 at 3:39 am
Posted on 11/17/15 at 3:39 am
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Some interesting highlights:
- Apple only produced 14 percent of smartphones sold in the quarter, with about 48 million units
- Samsung nearly doubled how many phones Apple sold, selling 83 million units, nearly a quarter of all phones sold globally
- Like previous years, Apple and Samsung's combined profits made up more than 100 percent of the market since everybody else lost money
- The average selling price of Apple's phones is $670
- The average selling price of Samsung phones fell to $180
Some interesting highlights:
- Apple only produced 14 percent of smartphones sold in the quarter, with about 48 million units
- Samsung nearly doubled how many phones Apple sold, selling 83 million units, nearly a quarter of all phones sold globally
- Like previous years, Apple and Samsung's combined profits made up more than 100 percent of the market since everybody else lost money
- The average selling price of Apple's phones is $670
- The average selling price of Samsung phones fell to $180
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 6:33 am to iPadThai
Is this a case of too much competition in the Android space? Fewer players would lead to higher prices and more profits? What's happening is great for the consumer now, and it even pushes Apple to improve iPhones, but it seems like something that can't be sustained long term.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 7:11 am to TigerinATL
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Is this a case of too much competition in the Android space? Fewer players would lead to higher prices and more profits? What's happening is great for the consumer now, and it even pushes Apple to improve iPhones, but it seems like something that can't be sustained long term.
I don't see how this would have anything to do with too much competition. Apple is competing in the same market as all of those other smartphones. Apple just has some differentiating factors which the market likes enough to allow them to markup their phones so much more.
Those differentiating factors are marketing, ecosystem, different OS, etc.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 7:39 am to efrad
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I don't see how this would have anything to do with too much competition.
Because the different Android flavors are competing with each other on specs. The price points are pretty much set and they try to outspec each other which cuts down on the profitability. Although if the average selling price is $180 for a Samsung phone then I'd say the real issue is entry into low margin developing markets outside the US. Apple and Google both look like geniuses letting the other guys do the thankless grunt work at the low end. Yes Google has made some low priced phones, but they aren't really in the phone manufacturing game, they thought about it and then got out with Motorola.
This post was edited on 11/17/15 at 7:42 am
Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:30 am to iPadThai
Apple is incredible at marketing. Basically make everyone else who doesn't have an iPhone feel inferior.
Works great on people with low self-confidence and teenagers!
Works great on people with low self-confidence and teenagers!
Posted on 11/17/15 at 1:56 pm to gatorrocks
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gatorrocks
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Apple is incredible at marketing. Basically make everyone else who doesn't have an iPhone feel inferior.
Works great on people with low self-confidence and teenagers!
Nobody can make you feel inferior except you, Punkin.
I love how there are still people that pay attention to the tech space and mobile tech space in specific and see the industry and try to pass it off as strictly marketing. As if that's all there is to it.
What Apple's truly incredible at is allowing me to jump into the Gulf of Mexico on a Wednesday, ruining a $800 phone in the process, then walk into an AT&T corporate store and buying another one, getting it home and within 1 hour's time have all of my photos, pictures, songs, music, favorites, websites, settings, ringtones and notification preferences just as they used to be, complete with every photo I took on my vacation prior to the dunking.
Without having to spend three days or even three hours endlessly tweaking things just so, or having to download third party applications in order to do things like send a group text message. Or watch a gif or video someone sends in it. Or optimize battery settings.
For busy people...ones with lives that place a premium on time...knowing they won't have to dedicate said time, trial and error into adjusting their mobile/smartphone just so they can use it the way they want to is fantastic.
Not having to go through a 3 day tinkering process to adjust things like brightness, or connecting to the home theater system, or calendaring or notifications...just being a few taps and swipes away from your music, photos and settings just the way you want...There's no marketing in that.
It's real life ease of use.
If you like laboring under the hood, then by all means, grab an Android or a Windows Phone, etc. But scoffing at Apple's profits and sales and margins and simply writing it all off at Marketing is obtuse at best.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 2:25 pm to GFunk
quote:My Android does all that.
What Apple's truly incredible at is allowing me to jump into the Gulf of Mexico on a Wednesday, ruining a $800 phone in the process, then walk into an AT&T corporate store and buying another one, getting it home and within 1 hour's time have all of my photos, pictures, songs, music, favorites, websites, settings, ringtones and notification preferences just as they used to be, complete with every photo I took on my vacation prior to the dunking.
quote:Tweaking is not necessary. The people who do it enjoy doing it.
Without having to spend three days or even three hours endlessly tweaking things just so
quote:Group texts work just fine.
or having to download third party applications in order to do things like send a group text message.
quote:My stock settings take me 2 days on a charge.
Or optimize battery settings.
quote:I'm pretty sure a lot of people use their phones as they come stock. The reason you hear about people tweaking their Android phones to use it the way they want to is because that's only possible to do so on Android. Of course nobody spends a lot of time adjusting their iPhone, there isn't much to adjust!
For busy people...ones with lives that place a premium on time...knowing they won't have to dedicate said time, trial and error into adjusting their mobile/smartphone just so they can use it the way they want to is fantastic.
quote:WTfrick? Adjusting brightness takes 2 seconds (though I have spent all of 0 seconds adjusting my brightness in the year I've had this phone). Making wireless connections is similarly easy. Calendaring and notifications? What's there to adjust? It all just works.
Not having to go through a 3 day tinkering process to adjust things like brightness, or connecting to the home theater system, or calendaring or notifications...
quote:All my stuff is just the way I want, and it required very minimal effort. My music and photos are available on any device I choose to use.
just being a few taps and swipes away from your music, photos and settings just the way you want...
quote:The fact that you think that only iPhone can offer you all these things kind of goes to show that there's plenty of marketing in that.
There's no marketing in that.
quote:Firstly, if someone likes to do something, don't refer to it as "laboring". You're trying too hard to make other options seem like a pain. Why don't you instead say "if you like the option/ability to tweak, grab an Android"? Because you are marketing for Apple right now. Second, I love tinkering with things, but I haven't tinkered with my Android in a long, long time. It's bone stock, not even rooted. It just does what I need it to do with minimal effort on my part.
If you like laboring under the hood, then by all means, grab an Android or a Windows Phone, etc.
quote:And what would you call it when someone lists a bunch of reasons he chose one option, without realizing his whole list also describes the competition?
But scoffing at Apple's profits and sales and margins and simply writing it all off at Marketing is obtuse at best.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 2:32 pm to GFunk
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What Apple's truly incredible at is allowing me to jump into the Gulf of Mexico on a Wednesday, ruining a $800 phone in the process, then walk into an AT&T corporate store and buying another one, getting it home and within 1 hour's time have all of my photos, pictures, songs, music, favorites, websites, settings, ringtones and notification preferences just as they used to be, complete with every photo I took on my vacation prior to the dunking.
While this sounds really good, this is not an Apple only feature. Many phones are capable of this. That's why a lot of the anti-apple crowd scream marketing. My lowly Blackberry, yes a Blackberry, can do this.
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It's real life ease of use.
They are so good at marketing that they got you to repeat their message for free. "It just works."
Posted on 11/17/15 at 2:35 pm to GFunk
quote:Apple marketing: lowering mental capacity one customer at a time.
There's no marketing in that.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 2:53 pm to Korkstand
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And what would you call it when someone lists a bunch of reasons he chose one option, without realizing his whole list also describes the competition?
I would call it someone whose been so satisfied he's never even had to bother GAF about the competition.
How's that sound?
Posted on 11/17/15 at 2:55 pm to GFunk
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What Apple's truly incredible at is allowing me to jump into the Gulf of Mexico on a Wednesday, ruining a $800 phone in the process, then walk into an AT&T corporate store and buying another one, getting it home and within 1 hour's time have all of my photos, pictures, songs, music, favorites, websites, settings, ringtones and notification preferences just as they used to be, complete with every photo I took on my vacation prior to the dunking.
wow tell me more about this! sounds like scifi!
apple is truly magical.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 3:16 pm to GFunk
quote:Sounds like you need to keep your mouth shut about why your phone is so incredible compared to the competition.
I would call it someone whose been so satisfied he's never even had to bother GAF about the competition.
How's that sound?
Posted on 11/17/15 at 3:17 pm to GFunk
quote:I see you know nothing about Windows Phone.
If you like laboring under the hood, then by all means, grab an Android or a Windows Phone, etc.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 3:38 pm to TigerinATL
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Yes Google has made some low priced phones, but they aren't really in the phone manufacturing game, they thought about it and then got out with Motorola.
Google's acquisition of Motorola was more about patents than being a serious phone manufacturer. The proof is the difference in what Google paid ($12.5B) for Motorola and what they sold it for ($2.91), while holding onto all of the patents.
Found an interesting article about this. LINK
Posted on 11/17/15 at 3:51 pm to GFunk
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just so they can use it the way APPLE wants you to is fantastic.
FIFY
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having to download third party applications in order to do things
Third party applications have been great for the development of both Android and iOS. The fact is, there are some things that iOS did first that Android copied, and there are some things that Android did first that iOS copied. There are also some things that were done first in third party apps that both of them copied. If third party apps are so bad, why did Apple finally allow third party keyboards?
Posted on 11/17/15 at 5:27 pm to CubsFanBudMan
Excellent post.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 5:29 pm to GFunk
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What Apple's truly incredible at is allowing me to jump into the Gulf of Mexico on a Wednesday, ruining a $800 phone in the process, then walk into an AT&T corporate store and buying another one, getting it home and within 1 hour's time have all of my photos, pictures, songs, music, favorites, websites, settings, ringtones and notification preferences just as they used to be, complete with every photo I took on my vacation prior to the dunking
my god youre delusional
Posted on 11/17/15 at 8:06 pm to gatorrocks
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Apple is incredible at marketing. Basically make everyone else who doesn't have an iPhone feel inferior.
Works great on people with low self-confidence and teenagers!
Pretty much this. They are a consumer electronic company.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 8:12 pm to GFunk
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What Apple's truly incredible at is allowing me to jump into the Gulf of Mexico on a Wednesday, ruining a $800 phone in the process, then walk into an AT&T corporate store and buying another one, getting it home and within 1 hour's time have all of my photos, pictures, songs, music, favorites, websites, settings, ringtones and notification preferences just as they used to be, complete with every photo I took on my vacation prior to the dunking.
Without having to spend three days or even three hours endlessly tweaking things just so, or having to download third party applications in order to do things like send a group text message. Or watch a gif or video someone sends in it. Or optimize battery settings.
For busy people...ones with lives that place a premium on time...knowing they won't have to dedicate said time, trial and error into adjusting their mobile/smartphone just so they can use it the way they want to is fantastic.
Not having to go through a 3 day tinkering process to adjust things like brightness, or connecting to the home theater system, or calendaring or notifications...just being a few taps and swipes away from your music, photos and settings just the way you want...There's no marketing in that.
Yea, all of that is standard on android these days
Posted on 11/17/15 at 8:14 pm to GFunk
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I would call it someone whose been so satisfied he's never even had to bother GAF about the competition.
How's that sound?
Ah, so you were speaking out your arse and didn't know what you were talking about.
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