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re: Will the SEC ever get Men's Soccer?

Posted on 8/15/17 at 10:53 am to
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 10:53 am to
in 80 or 90 years they will be playing soccer in these 100k seat stadiums after football goes away
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:09 am to
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I always find it funny that a dude who went to [ahem] the University of West Virginia is such an elitist on here.



Its West Virginia University, if you are going to take a dig at least get the name right.....

A school that also has a pretty good soccer program over the years men and women's.

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He's just saying the SEC would suck at it from a purely college soccer perspective. I agree that college soccer isn't the way to go for developing the talent in our country. It's OK for finding a Jordan Morris or a Darlington Nagbe that fell through the cracks or a real late bloomer. But you're right, college isn't the setup for real development. I'm just against the idea that — purely inside the context of college soccer — that the SEC wouldn't be good at it.


The SEC talent pool for soccer other than GA and TX isn't that good compared to other parts of the country.

This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 11:21 am
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:17 am to
What's to say that players from other parts of the country won't come South? They do it for other sports. And given the South's relative growth, if SEC soccer were to happen, I think there would be an eager pool of players.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:19 am to
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What's to say that players from other parts of the country won't come South? They do it for other sports. And given the South's relative growth, if SEC soccer were to happen, I think there would be an eager pool of players.




You need the culture of fans embracing it. Soccer in the SEC country is still largely made fun of and called a girly sport. Players will want to play in a pro soccer area. Its why places like UVA, UMD, UNC and Midwest schools are always so successful.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:29 am to
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Players will want to play in a pro soccer area


Does you even ATL United bro?

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Its why places like UVA, UMD, UNC and Midwest schools are always so successful.


Is this an attempt to act like DC United is a big deal or an admittance that people from this area are "girly"?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125410 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:31 am to
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Does you even ATL United bro?



Do you even reading comprehension. We already said GA would be fine.

But speaking about Atlanta sports fans are fickle as frick.

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Is this an attempt to act like DC United is a big deal or an admittance that people from this area are "girly"?



You are an idiot.
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 11:34 am
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:42 am to
The one path I see to SEC schools picking up men's soccer is if more schools follow the lead of Florida and add women's lacrosse teams while also adding Beach Volleyball teams.

I don't think everyone can add a women's lacrosse team and be competitive since it is still a regional sport and one that isn't played much in SEC country, but if only 2 more teams do it, it is definitely possible to see 6 teams work out the scholarship requirements.

Kentucky and South Carolina are already there, Florida has a very competitive women's team, and that leaves three more schools. Vanderbilt also has women's lacrosse. That leaves 2 more teams needed to add women's lacrosse. The obvious picks for me are A&M and UGA
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 12:18 pm to
There's loads of talent in Florida, as well as the carolinas and believe it or not south Louisiana.
Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 12:22 pm to
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believe it or not south Louisiana.

I really want to believe you, S. But I just find that hard to believe.
I even played in the Louisiana high-school all-star game a few years back and maybe 2-3 guys were D-1 caliber.

ETA: Andrew Malinich who now plays at NC State and Jacob Cunningham & Rader Massey at Northern Kentucky
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 12:51 pm
Posted by Michael Stein
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 12:52 pm to
Andrew Malinich was a beast. BlackCoffeeKid and I are both Class of 2014, as was Andrew. Andrew was the best player I ever faced in high school. His ball control was unbelievable. Brock Hollier at Beau Chene was also a beast from our class.

Malinich has a good shot to go pro.
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 12:54 pm
Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 12:55 pm to
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Brock Hollier at Beau Chene

Forgot about my buddy Brock. Hope he's doing well.
We had to play Beau Chene 3 straight years in the playoffs

But yeah, Malinich is another class of good.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:18 pm to
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Soccer in the SEC country is still largely made fun of and called a girly sport. Players will want to play in a pro soccer area. Its why places like UVA, UMD, UNC and Midwest schools are always so successful.


Sure, but Clemson — which is as SEC as it gets for a non-SEC school — was the national runner-up a few years back. They got the talent somehow.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:26 pm to
That's an outlier

and the ACC in general is very pro soccer.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:52 pm to
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and the ACC in general is very pro soccer.


Well, yeah, because its sponsors the sport.

What I'm saying is that the geographic footprint doesn't necessarily matter once you put the resources into it.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125410 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:55 pm to
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What I'm saying is that the geographic footprint doesn't necessarily matter once you put the resources into it.


To an extent it does. If you put all the money into and no one still supports it.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:00 pm to
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If you put all the money into and no one still supports it.

You put the money into it and win, people will show up, especially in the SEC.

These college towns have limited entertainment options, and people will support anything that wins. I've seen it happen so many times with several fringe sports.
Posted by mynamebowl
Houston
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:07 pm to
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I certainly would have tried harder if I knew there was a chance to get a scholarship.


This honestly isn't meant as dig towards you, but the idea that someone who genuinely loves playing soccer in high school would "try harder" if the potential to earn a college scholarship were there doesn't seem realistic. If a player really loves the game and has the potential to continue their development by playing at a higher level, he or she would almost definitely find a way to continue that development by playing in college, joining an MLS academy, or going to Europe.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125410 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:10 pm to
I don't think he played HS soccer

but id rather have college soccer shrink to keep the talent pool deeper. Send the best kids to MLS or overseas youth academies.

So what college soccer we do have make it more competitive.
Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
Member since Mar 2016
11714 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:12 pm to
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but id rather have college soccer shrink to keep the talent pool deeper. Send the best kids to MLS or overseas youth academies.

So what college soccer we do have make it more competitive.


Only problem is that 80% of all college rosters are already comprised of foreigners.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:41 pm to
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Only problem is that 80% of all college rosters are already comprised of foreigners.


Are you saying that 80 percent of college rosters HAVE foreigners, or that 80 percent ARE foreigners?
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