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Why does JK play MB where he does?

Posted on 4/21/15 at 5:27 pm
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 4/21/15 at 5:27 pm
Everyone here has seemingly posted their frustration with how Klinsmann uses Bradley, and it certainly didn't work that well in Brazil, so I'm not here to defend JK.

Just wondering what you would say if you had to explain it.
Posted by Tigerstark
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Member since Aug 2011
5977 posts
Posted on 4/21/15 at 5:34 pm to
I think Bradley is the only guy capable of doing what jurgen wants there, and we had a few guys that could play a deeper central mid last cycle. Problem is it just doesn't come natural to Bradley and the guys further behind him play defense and recycle well enough to replace him, but don't have the vision or passing to put our guys through like Bradley does. Plus Bradley's runs aren't as effective as he's already further up. Plus teams are able to harass him more.

I would rather he keep trying to find someone else to play that role rather than making MB uncomfortable and less effective while also making his deeper replacement less effective that he would be. Where's zelalem when you need him?

Long story short - Juergen is a nazi out for revenge.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
116108 posts
Posted on 4/21/15 at 5:46 pm to
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Where's zelalem when you need him?


Made some incredible passes in the U21 match yesterday for Arsenal. He isn't ready physically for the that level yet. Perhaps a call up for the Olympic Qualifiers.
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19494 posts
Posted on 4/21/15 at 7:40 pm to
quote:

I think Bradley is the only guy capable of doing what jurgen wants there


Assuming he wants a guy that can link the offense with the deeper midfield, make the right pass 95% of the time in the offensive half and deliver set pieces - we have one of those. He even has World Cup experience. And he can't get a sniff of the national team.



He's no Brad Davis or Miguel Ibarra - but he could probably do the job in a pinch.
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
20386 posts
Posted on 4/21/15 at 8:58 pm to
Preach on brother
Benny Feilhaber is a guy that should be a NT staple
He should've went to Brazil and started as our no.10
His game is as complete as ever since moving to SKC, he's a pure playmaker unlike anyone we have besides Dempsey when he feels unselfish
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28429 posts
Posted on 4/21/15 at 9:00 pm to
If we really had no true number ten at the World Cup and Donovan was not a midfielder (which for this discussion he isn't despite raping the 2013 gold cup from that position), and Mix wasn't up to snuff, then I think Feilhaber or Nguyen were our next best options.

Bradley has looked AWESOME in the ten role twice to my knowledge: against mexico's scrubs before the World Cup and against mexico's scrubs this month. Two matches does not a pattern make, and I'm not sure why Jurgen continues to try to place a square peg in a round hole.

Eta: the Benny snub, the Lichaj snub, and the Donovan snub are, however, a quite disturbing pattern.
This post was edited on 4/21/15 at 9:03 pm
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 4/21/15 at 9:03 pm to
I love Benny more than a straight man should admit, and not
just because he's so good looking. I too wish he could get a look.

As to Bradley, JK is still hanging onto that one first half against Mexico in a friendly where we actually looked capable of playing the kind of soccer he wants us to play.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31072 posts
Posted on 4/21/15 at 9:08 pm to
quote:

As to Bradley, JK is still hanging onto that one first half against Mexico in a friendly where we actually looked capable of playing the kind of soccer he wants us to play.

I think you answered your own question perfectly.

I just hope that JK is not setting up Bradley for Landygate 2.0 in 2018.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 4/21/15 at 9:19 pm to
quote:

I just hope that JK is not setting up Bradley for Landygate 2.0 in 2018.

That would be cold. But also possible since MB is in the MLS.

Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 4/21/15 at 9:23 pm to
quote:

then I think Feilhaber or Nguyen were our next best options.


Is it fair to say that the knock on both of those guys has always been head/heart related? It's not like they got a ton of play with Bob either. Granted, they have grown up a lot now, but I don't think either of them could have taken Bradley or Jones's spots in the World Cup and provided the work and leadership we needed.
Posted by Dijkstra
Michael J. Fox's location in time.
Member since Sep 2007
8738 posts
Posted on 4/21/15 at 11:24 pm to
I think we're stacked at the CDM position, and we have quality in the CM to let Bradley move forward. I believe Jurgen believes that Bradley is a playmaker who has the tools to really make shite happen at the top. Anyone who watched the Sweden match and heard what Jurgen was saying can see that he loves Bradley. Always compliments him and talks about his ability. It's clear that Jurgen has huge respect for Bradley's game and his approach.

Sure, Bradley was a shell of himself in Brazil, and it isn't untrue that his greatest moment in the tournament came from deep. That said, we've seen what he's capable of when he's playing comfortably. Jurgen seems to think that Bradley is someone who can control the game and be that guy on the attack. I'm personally a Bradley fanboy so I think that he could really grow into an animal there if we play the 3-5-2 the way we did against Mexico. He can keep possession and his vision is wonderful when he's feeling comfortable.

Obviously, I want a true 10 to emerge, but at the moment, that player isn't really there. Bradley's played in one of the most technically sound leagues in Serie A, and I think that we really don't have many options otherwise. Long term, he's not the answer, but for the Gold Cup, it's good to get him comfortable up there. I'm just hoping one of our young guys emerges as a real 10 to allow us to play Bradley deeper.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28429 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 7:04 am to
Freddy Adu just played 66 solid minutes in the Finnish league. Time to get excited about our savior again. LINK

Did we really play a 3-5-2 against Mexico? Thought it was a 4-4-2 diamond.
Posted by Dijkstra
Michael J. Fox's location in time.
Member since Sep 2007
8738 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 8:30 am to
You're right. I'm getting matches confused in my lack of sleep. It was a 4-4-2 Diamond.

As for Freddy Adu, I think Jurgen should be ousted for his lack of respect for the most elite footballer in American history to ever have a Disney channel commercial encouraging physical activity and believing in yourself.
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19494 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 11:09 am to
quote:

Is it fair to say that the knock on both of those guys has always been head/heart related?


I think it's work rate related. Neither are true CMs, willing to do all of the work defensively. Bradley does that in spades, Mix appears willing.

Nguyen and Feilhaber have made improvements over the last 18 months in that area. Both are willing to challenge if the ball is nearby. I don't know that I would count on either to make a 40-60 yard sprint to come back to an open man or break up a play. They would more often than Dempsey would, but I don't think that says a whole lot.
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