re: Where will MLS expand to next? Any NOLA info?

Kenner United

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Who is this ownership group?

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Its still being kept "secret" but not very well.

A group headed up by Dave Peacock, front man on the Riverfront Stadium project and former AB Chief Executive, and some local business leaders including Jack Taylor.

Lot of hot rumors that something scaled down for soccer could be built tied into the north riverfront adjoining the Arch grounds.

Still a long way to go. there is expected to be some resolution on the Rams situation on August 11th and it seems the project could maybe go two ways, build the stadium as a dual purpose for soccer and football and the rams stay or look to making a scaled down soccer venue work to accommodate US international teams and MLS.

Nothing is set in stone but the things are starting to take shape.

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“Frankly, I’m not worried about getting an ownership group if we can get a stadium,” Garber said at the fan forum. “I wouldn’t have said that two years ago.”

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Not hard to read the tea leaves there.

and Indy. Great NASL club there that's averaging 5 figures.

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Its never been about the Rams. I know you think that you are onto something but the ironic thing is the best case scenario for an MLS team in St Louis is for the Rams to STAY and share the stadium with an MLS team. Its always been about not getting public financing support etc to build a soccer specific facility over an owner not wanting to invest because of the Rams. With the governor being able to extend the Ed Jones dome bonds to build a new stadium that knocks out two birds with one stone

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You must be delusional if you don't think that investors have been scared off after seeing what happened to the Rams.

I'm doubtful this stadium deal gets done, considering it has to get funding from the state legislature, which is out of session. Stan clearly has his sights on LA. Now, that isn't to say maybe one of the california teams moves to STL, but I'd put the Rams chances of staying at about 20%.

Look at it from a business perspective. MLS teams are roughly paying 300 million for an expansion squad. Investors aren't going to throw that type of cash around without assurance of fan support. STL supports the Cards to a T, and the Blues very well, but haven't really supported the Rams since the Greatest Show on Turf. Cards and Blues prove that fan support is obviously possible. Rams haven't had that. There is no blame on weather either for potential fan loss, as the Edward Jones dome is a dome.

Also, the MLS season runs pretty similarly to the MLB schedule, with NHL taking up the first 12 weeks as well. Cards are STL's golden child. Would STL have enough resources to support 2-3 pro sports teams at a time? Perhaps if the Rams were selling out their (relatively) small stadium it would be a no brainer, but thus, we are left with present situations.

The MLS has turned down STL ownership groups before...and that was when the expansion fees were way less.

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Was it KC not being able to support three teams for 2 decades and then miraculously they could all of a sudden or was it simply that the Royals sucked?

Your little brother syndrome is showing again towards St Louis

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This point is pretty money.

STL would support it. Without a shed of doubt.

They'd also support the Rams again if they made any kind of effort to get the dog shite out of that dog shite stadium and into a decent fan experience.

The dome f-ing blows.

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I cant believe you really think that this is relevant. That the fact the team has been so bad for so long doesnt even resister for you through your bias against St Louis. Thats sad.

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Really?...You clearly haven't invested seriously.

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This is 100% wrong. The governor can extend the Bonds. You should do some research. Its crystal clear you dont have any idea whats going on in St Louis concerning the Stadium,Rams and MLS

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Not for a $1B new stadium. . Hilarious stuff. I'm very clear on this issue. "Nixon Can't Extend Bonds without legislature"

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You cant comprehend the team being bad for so long with falling attendance? You really cant see the correlation? Its an amazing example of idiocy. Expanion fees are 100 million not 300.

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Never said they weren't losing. Nor did I say what caused decreased attendance. Problem is, that doesn't matter. Expansion fee's are $100 mil. That almost literally just pays for the rights to have a St. Louis team. Still takes a sizable investment to create jerseys, branding, buy players, stadium, etc. Plenty of sources say that it takes around $300 million for a city without an established squad.

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Jesus man. You are just dumb. Im sorry but you have zero idea what you are talking about. Everything hinges on the fact the Rams who havent had a winning season in 13 year 13 frickING YEARS and have the worst 8 year run of football in NFL HISTORY and the lacking attendance from that is somehow a barrometer for fan support for MLS has to be the most stupid thing I have heard.

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You do realize that I was referring to available discretionary income right? As in like the actual dollars and cents of it. St. Louis has been hit extra hard by the recession in terms of the middle class. "People are fleeing St. Louis' economy" These are the facts. How far does the St. Louis dollar stretch? and are St. Louisians willing to spend more money on sports?

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Was it KC not being able to support three teams for 2 decades and then miraculously they could all of a sudden or was it simply that the Royals sucked?

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Nope. That is why Sporting KC went through a complete re-branding, combined with large economic growth, has allowed the city to thrive with 3 pro teams. A 4th (hockey or basketball) would absolutely struggle. Business, Period.

Im not going to go line by line parsing your nonsense. Ill just respond to the obviously stupid stuff to make fun of you at this point.

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Extend the bonds for the Edward Jones Dome. Not for a $1B new stadium. . Hilarious stuff. I'm very clear on this issue.

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I guess you are not. Do yourself a favor and do some research on the subject. You are tripping over yourself holding onto some of your incorrect statements and opinions. Dont like seeing a fellow mizzou fan flounder like this.

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Never said they weren't losing. Nor did I say what caused decreased attendance. Problem is, that doesn't matter.

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But it does matter.

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You do realize that I was referring to available discretionary income right? As in like the actual dollars and cents of it. St. Louis has been hit extra hard by the recession in terms of the middle class. "People are fleeing St. Louis' economy" These are the facts. How far does the St. Louis dollar stretch? and are St. Louisians willing to spend more money on sports?

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Thats not what you said. You are moving the goalposts now. Not surprising that you are doing this now.

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Nope. That is why Sporting KC went through a complete re-branding, combined with large economic growth, has allowed the city to thrive with 3 pro teams. A 4th (hockey or basketball) would absolutely struggle. Business, Period.

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Of course it was the Royals being bad more than anything else.

The MLS commissioner has said that an ownership group isnt going to be a problem in St Louis yet you continue to argue nonsense fueled by nonsensical inferiority complex.

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“Frankly, I’m not worried about getting an ownership group if we can get a stadium,” Garber said at the fan forum. “I wouldn’t have said that two years ago.”

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I guess he didnt ask 5th Tiger. Silly Garber.

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I guess you are not. Do yourself a favor and do some research on the subject. You are tripping over yourself holding onto some of your incorrect statements and opinions. Dont like seeing a fellow mizzou fan flounder like this.

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Went ahead and linked a statement for you, in case you aren't up on politics.

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But it does matter

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How so? The Rams are still (likely) leaving.

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Thats not what you said. You are moving the goalposts now. Not surprising that you are doing this now.

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I guess you can't equate synonyms....."resources"="discretionary spending"

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Of course it was the Royals being bad more than anything else.

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Chiefs sucked and still got support a few years ago? Team success correlates with support, but isn't the end all be all.

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Silly Garber.

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“I wouldn’t have said that two years ago." Combined with the fact that they have turned down ownership groups in STL before, I'm a bit leery to trust some pump up words from a commissioner who is trying to grow his league.

Quit this BS "inferiority complex" argument. A KC vs STL argument is for another thread, at another time. This is about St. Louis, the cities ability to support a (potentially) 4th pro team as an MLS franchise. As I have said time and time again, if legit ownership with deep pockets would step up, and a stadium were approved, I think the MLS would give them an expansion team on the spot.

Take yall stupid Midwest cat fight elsewhere

Cmon SCH, this is great