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re: The Ultimate Guide to How The United States Will Advance
Posted on 6/18/10 at 1:00 pm to macatak911
Posted on 6/18/10 at 1:00 pm to macatak911
someone was bored in excel at work today 
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Posted on 6/18/10 at 1:02 pm to WelcomeToDeathValley
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someone was bored in excel at work today
Pretty much. $17.50 an hour to watch World Cup/compute scenarios sounds good to me.
Posted on 6/18/10 at 1:02 pm to WelcomeToDeathValley
so pretty much if we win wednesday and score more points then slovinia we advanced right
Posted on 6/18/10 at 1:06 pm to macatak911
Let's simplify this, eh?
We will not advance if we lose to Algeria. A draw vs. Algeria will have us at 3 points, which will PROBABLY not be enough to advance. As an athlete, you focus on winning you next match, so let's just say that if the US doesn't win, we don't advance.
So, we beat Algeria, that gives us 5 points. The only match that truly matters is England/Slovenia. Why? Because Slovenia has 4 points right now. If Algeria beats England and loses to us, they only have three points. If England loses to Algeria, then they can only total 4 points with a win vs. Slovenia.
So basically, we win vs. Algeria, then we want to win by 2 or more OR we want England to beat Slovenia.
So beat Algeria by 2, and we're pretty much assured of getting into the knockout stages.
We will not advance if we lose to Algeria. A draw vs. Algeria will have us at 3 points, which will PROBABLY not be enough to advance. As an athlete, you focus on winning you next match, so let's just say that if the US doesn't win, we don't advance.
So, we beat Algeria, that gives us 5 points. The only match that truly matters is England/Slovenia. Why? Because Slovenia has 4 points right now. If Algeria beats England and loses to us, they only have three points. If England loses to Algeria, then they can only total 4 points with a win vs. Slovenia.
So basically, we win vs. Algeria, then we want to win by 2 or more OR we want England to beat Slovenia.
So beat Algeria by 2, and we're pretty much assured of getting into the knockout stages.
Posted on 6/18/10 at 1:08 pm to Sophandros
it doesn't matter who wins wednesday, if we win we have to pull for a victory for either team a tie is the worst possible scenario right now
This post was edited on 6/18/10 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 6/18/10 at 1:12 pm to catholictigerfan
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it doesn't matter who wins tomorrow
You mean today?
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if we win we have to pull for a victory for either team a tie is the worst possible scenario right now
An Eng-Alg tie gives us the most possible chances to advance (4 or 5 out of 6) (assuming we don't lose obviously)
Posted on 6/18/10 at 1:13 pm to macatak911
A US win over Algeria by 2 goals gives us the best chance, regardless of what happens in 15 minutes.
Posted on 6/18/10 at 1:15 pm to Sophandros
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A US win over Algeria by 2 goals gives us the best chance, regardless of what happens in 15 minutes.
Yeah I'm just looking at it as a whole regarding the England game. A tie would allow us to possibly advance on a tie, something that an outright win or loss by England would not allow.
Posted on 6/18/10 at 1:17 pm to macatak911
My scenario:
1. Brits tie Algeria today.
2. US crushes Algeria by 3.
3. Brits beat Slovenia by 1.
USA #1 with 5
Brits #2 with 5
1. Brits tie Algeria today.
2. US crushes Algeria by 3.
3. Brits beat Slovenia by 1.
USA #1 with 5
Brits #2 with 5
Posted on 6/18/10 at 1:18 pm to LSUAlum2001
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USA #1 with 5
Brits #2 with 5
frick that I want #2 and Ghana
Posted on 6/18/10 at 1:21 pm to macatak911
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frick that I want #2 and Ghana
Is that the latest projection? I haven't looked past the opening round.
Posted on 6/18/10 at 1:24 pm to LSUAlum2001
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Is that the latest projection? I haven't looked past the opening round.
Assuming Ghana beats Australia they'll have the lead going into the last game vs Germany.
Posted on 6/18/10 at 1:26 pm to Sophandros
If England and Algeria tie today, all we have to do is beat Algeria and we're in, regardless of the Slovenia/England outcome.
Posted on 6/18/10 at 1:29 pm to macatak911
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An Eng-Alg tie gives us the most possible chances to advance (4 or 5 out of 6)
yep
but also the only way we win next wednesday and don't advance is that if england and Slovenia tie and we can only score one goal and they score 2
meaning we 3 teams have 5 but england has 4 or 5 goals probably 5+ Slovenia has 5 goals and we only have 4 meaning we get knocked out.
If we win and england wins
per your chart we have 5 england has 7 and Slovenia has 4
if Slovenia wins they have 7 we have 5 and england has 4 so we advance
best case scenario assuming England wins today is that eng slv doesn't tie cuase that means if we win we get in over the loser of eng slv
sry i was confusing by not refering to ENG SLV my bad
This post was edited on 6/18/10 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 6/18/10 at 1:30 pm to macatak911
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Assuming Ghana beats Australia they'll have the lead going into the last game vs Germany.
Germany will regroup and finish #1 in that group. If we want to face Ghana in round 2, we need to finish #1 in our group, which could lead to a quarterfinal clash with the Messicans.
Posted on 6/18/10 at 1:32 pm to catholictigerfan
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best case scenario assuming England wins today is that eng slv doesn't tie cuase that means if we win we get in over the loser of eng slv
I'll take it
Posted on 6/18/10 at 1:33 pm to macatak911
yeah i noticed that i didn't make myself clear at first not referring to the match next wednesday
Posted on 6/18/10 at 1:35 pm to macatak911
Isn't the most likely advance for us:
England wins today
We beat Algeria
Either England or Slovenia win
England wins today
We beat Algeria
Either England or Slovenia win
Posted on 6/18/10 at 1:40 pm to Tigertown in ATL
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Isn't the most likely advance for us:
England wins today
We beat Algeria
Either England or Slovenia win
Yep, we'd only have to worry about a tie in Eng-Slv, but if we win by 2 against Algeria I think we advance.
Posted on 6/18/10 at 2:18 pm to macatak911
what does the world cup do if 3 teams tie ? Do all 3 go?
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