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re: Super League may NOT actually be happening!
Posted on 4/18/21 at 6:26 pm to lynxcat
Posted on 4/18/21 at 6:26 pm to lynxcat
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I may have been misinterpreting the Super League...I was envisioning the teams pulling out of their home country leagues altogether.
IMO it’s a precursor to this. Hell that may have been the original plan and then someone said the blowback would be too big, so they toned it down.
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Posted on 4/18/21 at 6:29 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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IMO it’s a precursor to this.
100%
This is a trial balloon trying to judge proof of concept.
If this actually goes through I'd expect them all to leave their current leagues w/in 5-10 years.
Posted on 4/18/21 at 6:30 pm to ohiovol
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So you're replacing the best club competition with a competition that is not merit based.
The only area that this matters is in the signings of the best talents worldwide... The best talents worldwide really always have eyes for these charter clubs, obviously the big German and French teams notwithstanding.
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You cannot add another full 20 team league and maintain the current structure.
I actually think it could ADD to competition depending on how teams decide to prioritize the competitions. If there is no threat to be relegated, then the Super League may not be as important as league play to some teams.
They may prioritize the UCL since they are guaranteed cash from the Super League. These teams aren't forgetting that the normal competitions give money as well.
I just don't know that this is some sort of crippling event to anyone outside of UEFA wanting a piece of someone else's slaved-over pie, so to speak.
This post was edited on 4/18/21 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 4/18/21 at 6:31 pm to DByrd2
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They may prioritize the UCL since they are guaranteed cash from the Super League. These teams aren't forgetting that the normal competitions give money as well.
Hopefully they are banned from UCL so it won't matter.
Posted on 4/18/21 at 6:34 pm to crazy4lsu
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Hopefully they are banned from UCL so it won't matter.
But why?
I haven't seen much evaluation of what would cause any issues, just a whole bunch of speculation. If this runs parallel to the UCL, then the UCL wouldn't lose any of it's merit or viewership value. I also don't understand how "Cindrella stories" would cease to exist, especially if these clubs are to maintain their league membership.
This post was edited on 4/18/21 at 6:35 pm
Posted on 4/18/21 at 6:36 pm to StraightCashHomey21
It’s really on the domestic leagues now to kick them out.
Posted on 4/18/21 at 6:39 pm to crazy4lsu
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Wenger took blame so that Stan could complete his takeover, and what are we left with? Stan still running after his profits like a fricking rabid fricking moron.
It makes sense, they knew they could just get by for a few years as full owners then get a big payday with this super league.
Posted on 4/18/21 at 6:39 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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It’s really on the domestic leagues now to kick them out.
But they won't because money.
The definition of irony when their main argument is that the Super League teams are just money grubbers.
Posted on 4/18/21 at 6:39 pm to DByrd2
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Yup. Here we are. With City as a founding member alongside United and LFC.
In all fairness City was reportedly not going along when this all broke, and they've always been against it every time it popped up.
frick CFG for going along with this shite.
Posted on 4/18/21 at 6:42 pm to Srbtiger06
I know, I'm just giving him hell.
And props to SCH being willing to hate on his own club over something he disagrees with them on.
I'm sure you all don't like my take on this, but it is nice to see the open and respectful debate in here...
Stupid bitches.
And props to SCH being willing to hate on his own club over something he disagrees with them on.
I'm sure you all don't like my take on this, but it is nice to see the open and respectful debate in here...
Stupid bitches.
Posted on 4/18/21 at 6:42 pm to DByrd2
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But why? I haven't seen much evaluation of what would cause any issues, just a whole bunch of speculation.
If Alabama, USC, Ohio State, Texas, Michigan, Notre Dame, Clemson, Florida, LSU, Penn State, Texas A&M, OU, and 4 other rotating teams all got together and said they were having a yearly tournament separate from the NCAA season do you actually think it wouldn't severely harm the rest of NCAA football? That would be the de-facto top tier division from then on.
Posted on 4/18/21 at 6:43 pm to hendersonshands
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I’d much rather watch Leicester City and West Ham than Manchester United and Tottenham.
You say that now though not over the long haul. Teams like united and arsenal are bigger international draws, united the biggest. You'd be dumb not to get the top 10 clubs in fan support, they'd watch that shite no matter what.
Posted on 4/18/21 at 6:44 pm to Srbtiger06
City and Chelsea don’t need the money for obvious reasons
But they are not going to let the other four clubs get in on all the fun
But they are not going to let the other four clubs get in on all the fun
Posted on 4/18/21 at 6:45 pm to dgnx6
A lot of fans are against this
Would be awesome everyone boycotted watching this piece of shite league
Would be awesome everyone boycotted watching this piece of shite league
Posted on 4/18/21 at 6:45 pm to Dr RC
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If Alabama, USC, Ohio State, Texas, Michigan, Notre Dame, Clemson, Florida, LSU, Penn State, Texas A&M, OU, and 4 other rotating teams all got together and said they were having a yearly tournament separate from the NCAA season do you actually think it wouldn't severely harm the rest of NCAA football? That would be the de-facto top tier division from then on.
That's a false equivalency.
There aren't four or five different domestic competitions that award each institution money. European soccer is structurally much different.
The only thing that would equate is the signing of too talent, which again, most of these charter teams, and likely all of the future joiners, are already the main teams in competition to sign those players year in and year out.
This post was edited on 4/18/21 at 6:47 pm
Posted on 4/18/21 at 6:50 pm to DByrd2
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But why? I haven't seen much evaluation of what would cause any issues, just a whole bunch of speculation.
The sheer audacity is enough for me. The greed of wanting more money to go to them so they can waste it on sub-par players. Maybe the only clubs who deserve such wealth this last half-decade are Madrid, Man City, and Pool, and probably some other team I'm forgetting. The other clubs have been horrible at times, regressive, stilted, with terrible overpaid players and unimaginative coaches. Barca got by doing frick-all to replace Xavi-Iniesta, and were only bailed out by Messi's utter genius. Arsenal were terrible once they started spending money, as in the teams during the era where they spent little were more sound technically than nearly every team they fielded post-2014. Spurs chased off Poch, and otherwise haven't looked worthy of being a team in a 'super' league. Man U have been awful on the field since Fergie retired.
They've been insulated from their mistakes largely by virtue of their size. Yet getting into a situation where they are even more insulated is supposed to be good? I'm failing to see it.
My hope is that all these clubs are kicked out of their leagues, banned from the CL,and their players threatened with bannings if they decide to participate. I don't think they should be rewarded due to historical circumstance, which has kept them from suffering to the degree they should have.
This post was edited on 4/18/21 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 4/18/21 at 6:52 pm to DByrd2
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That's a false equivalency.
There aren't four or five different domestic competitions that award each institution money. European soccer is structurally much different.
I disagree. There are exactly 5 conferences that pay each team money that equate to the five main domestic leagues. CFB is the American sport that is the most similar to European soccer.
I think it’s a pretty appropriate comparison.
I can’t believe on a site where people melt when Alabama gets in the playoff with one loss, people are advocating for a .500 Arsenal squad to get into the continent’s premier competition.
Posted on 4/18/21 at 6:53 pm to dgnx6
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Teams like united and arsenal are bigger international draws, united the biggest.
Largely due to the genius of two men, who strung together amazing teams on tiny budgets, and the sheer coincidence that the game was 'internationalized' during the same time period. Shouldn't the clubs reward those men with that windfall, and not these shite head owners?
Posted on 4/18/21 at 6:54 pm to crazy4lsu
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They've been insulated from their mistakes largely by virtue of their size. Yet getting into a situation where they are even more insulated is supposed to be good? I'm failing to see it.
It's an investment. I am all about a free market.
If the big leagues and domestic tournaments are willing to eat that profit and take a stand, then I'll applaud them.
But I doubt that happens.
Posted on 4/18/21 at 6:56 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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I can’t believe on a site where people melt when Alabama gets in the playoff with one loss, people are advocating for a .500 Arsenal squad to get into the continent’s premier competition.
It's no different than everyone wanting the SEC to leave the NCAA - yet don't want these teams leaving the champions league for more money because of "tradition".
Just like how these teams are lucky historically, so are 90% of the SEC teams who benefit every year just because they happened to join the conference at the right time and be in the right geographic area.
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