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re: OFFICIAL Liverpool FC 2014-2015 Season Long Thread
Posted on 5/10/15 at 10:31 am to DByrd2
Posted on 5/10/15 at 10:31 am to DByrd2
quote:Sorry D Byrd but I don't think there's anything here I can agree with
Sorry hog, meant to upvote.
I think I am getting on the "savk Rodgers" bus. There is no reason we should possess the striking talent we have and get nothing out of it.
Also, I don't care what anyone says, I want Sterling gone.
Posted on 5/10/15 at 10:32 am to TFTC
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Of course, he's played for 4 clubs since without it being an issue... Our luck, he'd drop dead during the photo shoot, minutes after he signed..
This is horrible.
But I laughed.
Posted on 5/10/15 at 10:41 am to TheZaba
Nah, you are fine boss.
Sturridge is really good, and Balotelli is full of talent. That is easy to see. Coutinho is an effective player, and I think he is our most creative in attack.
The reasons I don't like Sterling are simple. He doesn't pass. He feels like he has to do everything, but he doesn't have the skill to do that yet... nor do I think he will. How many times has he ran right at someone, stoppedn tried to get fancy, and squandered his chance? A ton. And most of those chances there was an opportunity to get an assist.
As for Rodgers, isn't it on him to develop these players and extract their true potential? Instead, we haven't seen Sterling learn, the creativity has been almost non-existent in attack, and there have been reports of unease in his locker room as well as issues between he and Balotelli.
That is all before we even mention defense and the transfer problems. I really do like Rodgers, but I am beginning to believe he is the primary issue for this team.
Sturridge is really good, and Balotelli is full of talent. That is easy to see. Coutinho is an effective player, and I think he is our most creative in attack.
The reasons I don't like Sterling are simple. He doesn't pass. He feels like he has to do everything, but he doesn't have the skill to do that yet... nor do I think he will. How many times has he ran right at someone, stoppedn tried to get fancy, and squandered his chance? A ton. And most of those chances there was an opportunity to get an assist.
As for Rodgers, isn't it on him to develop these players and extract their true potential? Instead, we haven't seen Sterling learn, the creativity has been almost non-existent in attack, and there have been reports of unease in his locker room as well as issues between he and Balotelli.
That is all before we even mention defense and the transfer problems. I really do like Rodgers, but I am beginning to believe he is the primary issue for this team.
Posted on 5/10/15 at 10:43 am to DByrd2
The Daily Fail is saying we are interested in Pirlo.
Holy shite if true.
Holy shite if true.
Posted on 5/10/15 at 10:49 am to Riseupfromtherubble
Good on him. Really hope he gets a winner at the bridge to frick those Chelsea fans off.
He has been pretty non-existent though, one has to admit. Please keep him in the box, he's our only aerial threat whatsoever.
He has been pretty non-existent though, one has to admit. Please keep him in the box, he's our only aerial threat whatsoever.
Posted on 5/10/15 at 10:59 am to DByrd2
quote:Sturridge has been hurt for probably half his time at the club, sure Balotelli has technical skill, but he's massively underachieved everywhere he's been. I agree we haven't used him the best, but that still doesn't mean we're loaded with striking talent especially when you consider we have Lambert and Borini behind them.
Sturridge is really good, and Balotelli is full of talent. That is easy to see. Coutinho is an effective player, and I think he is our most creative in attack.
quote:I agree with you on a lot of this, but he's still what? 21? Think he's just itching to prove himself and do too much. Does he deserve 150k a week wages? frick no. Do I wanna get rid of him? frick no.
The reasons I don't like Sterling are simple. He doesn't pass. He feels like he has to do everything, but he doesn't have the skill to do that yet... nor do I think he will. How many times has he ran right at someone, stoppedn tried to get fancy, and squandered his chance? A ton. And most of those chances there was an opportunity to get an assist.
I think he does need a swift kick in the arse though. Reminds me of the time Suarez and Sterling had a 2 on 1 with the keeper and Suarez took the shot to get a hat trick. Sterling was upset and he has that similar mentality but he obviously doesn't have anywhere near the skill of Suarez to do that. Think he needs more talent around him to see that he isn't as good as he thinks he is, and he doesn't have to do as much of the work either.
quote:For the most part, Rodgers has been great for a lot of our players' development, but this year there has been struggles.
Rodgers, isn't it on him to develop these players and extract their true potential? Instead, we haven't seen Sterling learn, the creativity has been almost non-existent in attack, and there have been reports of unease in his locker room as well as issues between he and Balotelli.
And unease between Rodgers and Balotelli? I'm not surprised. Rodgers never wanted him and Balotelli has had issues with pretty much every manager he's been with, including Mancini who he's said before was like a father to him.
quote:Now the transfers I can absolutely agree with. We just need to get our shite together on this whole transfer committee thing.
That is all before we even mention defense and the transfer problems. I really do like Rodgers, but I am beginning to believe he is the primary issue for this team.
As for the defense, he's an attack minded coach so obviously we aren't gonna be super strong in the back. I think we've actually been better this year than years past, especially now that Lovren is playing better, so that's a positive to me. Not to mention, Mignolet is in the race for most clean sheets this year. Yea I said it...Simon fricking Mignolet. I think that deserves some cudos.
Posted on 5/10/15 at 11:18 am to TheZaba
I can get down with most of that. My point with striking talent is that not a lot of teams have two highly talented guys on their roster like Balo/Studge. The fact that we get such little production from ANY of our strikers, those two included, is borderline depressing.
Posted on 5/10/15 at 11:23 am to DByrd2
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I can get down with most of that. My point with striking talent is that not a lot of teams have two highly talented guys on their roster like Balo/Studge. The fact that we get such little production from ANY of our strikers, those two included, is borderline depressing.
When you have Sterling, Lallana, Moreno and Johnson feeding them balls its no surprise.
Lallana is not a winger and Sterling/Moreno has a lot of work to do.
Johnson needs to move to the MLS.
Posted on 5/10/15 at 6:39 pm to DByrd2
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The reasons I don't like Sterling are simple. He doesn't pass. He feels like he has to do everything, but he doesn't have the skill to do that yet... nor do I think he will. How many times has he ran right at someone, stoppedn tried to get fancy, and squandered his chance? A ton. And most of those chances there was an opportunity to get an assist.
yeah, but he's really fricking fast though... like 150k/week fast... :roll eyes:
if it were up to me, i would have sold him like 2 days before yesterday if someone comes at me with an offer...
Posted on 5/11/15 at 5:53 am to chRxis
Sterling is 20, with a huge upside, and cost us nothing (besides the peanuts we paid for him years ago)... why would anyone want to sell?
I mean, IF a team comes with an outrageous offer, sure... listen. I get being aggravated with his alleged contract situation/demands... but honestly, in the long run, don't really care what we pay him... I trust in FSG that they will keep a sort of wage structure in place, and not just throw £ around...
As for his struggles, with Luis gone and Sturridge hurt, I'm sure he either has been told or on his own, is trying to shoulder most of the load on the offensive side... not to mention all the various positions he's been asked to play this season, not allowing him to settle in to one role... I actually thought he looked pretty good yesterday.
I mean, IF a team comes with an outrageous offer, sure... listen. I get being aggravated with his alleged contract situation/demands... but honestly, in the long run, don't really care what we pay him... I trust in FSG that they will keep a sort of wage structure in place, and not just throw £ around...
As for his struggles, with Luis gone and Sturridge hurt, I'm sure he either has been told or on his own, is trying to shoulder most of the load on the offensive side... not to mention all the various positions he's been asked to play this season, not allowing him to settle in to one role... I actually thought he looked pretty good yesterday.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 7:44 am to TFTC
Have an upvote, sir!!
I think Rodgers has moved him around out of necessity and sterling has wilted a bit under the pressure of trying to carry a team of liverpools stature - but what 20 year old wouldn't?
He's had plenty of assists for his age - look at his pass to Cou yesterday which should have put us in front. I think there is a general lack of confidence in his peers and an trying to do too much.
Sell him if a Suarez offer comes in - but otherwise you have to lock him in.
On other transfer rumors - I think Milner is a terrific piece of business's for several reasons. Cheap. He's flexible and can play multiple roles in multiple tactics. It addresses a need area, not quite as high of a caliber as we would really like, but cheaply enough to serve for a few years while we spend on other areas.
As for Ings - are we really getting and improvement over Borini? for the relatively cheap price tag it's a fine gamble, but it doesn't lessen our need for another top striker.
I think this summer will go a long way towards telling us about Rodgers future and fenways intentions with our future.
I think Rodgers has moved him around out of necessity and sterling has wilted a bit under the pressure of trying to carry a team of liverpools stature - but what 20 year old wouldn't?
He's had plenty of assists for his age - look at his pass to Cou yesterday which should have put us in front. I think there is a general lack of confidence in his peers and an trying to do too much.
Sell him if a Suarez offer comes in - but otherwise you have to lock him in.
On other transfer rumors - I think Milner is a terrific piece of business's for several reasons. Cheap. He's flexible and can play multiple roles in multiple tactics. It addresses a need area, not quite as high of a caliber as we would really like, but cheaply enough to serve for a few years while we spend on other areas.
As for Ings - are we really getting and improvement over Borini? for the relatively cheap price tag it's a fine gamble, but it doesn't lessen our need for another top striker.
I think this summer will go a long way towards telling us about Rodgers future and fenways intentions with our future.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:16 am to Tigerstark
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I think this summer will go a long way towards telling us about Rodgers future and fenways intentions with our future.
I agree. If this is a summer of waiting until the close of the window to hurriedly splash 40M on bit players, I'm going to be upset, and Rodgers will likely be gone after next season, UNLESS he can develop all the players he's bought.
We need a statement signing at the beginning of the window that will show other players that FSG truly means to build a competitor. Ings and Milner wouldn't entice ME to sign with Pool. I get we can't go sign Bale, Zlatan and Pogba, but there are players who would come to Liverpool that would attract other top talent. Just have to spend wisely and not sit around and wait for Tottenham or Chelsea to pip our targets.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 7:29 am to SetTheMood
Posted on 5/12/15 at 7:46 am to ZizzleFontain
Thanks for posting that!
Looking to the window - we get-
7m for aspas to Sevilla as per the loan to transfer agreement
Let's assume 10m for Balo
Anyone else to be sold?
Have to assume Fenway will put up at least 30m?
That gives us 50m or so to bring in a couple of players??
Looking to the window - we get-
7m for aspas to Sevilla as per the loan to transfer agreement
Let's assume 10m for Balo
Anyone else to be sold?
Have to assume Fenway will put up at least 30m?
That gives us 50m or so to bring in a couple of players??
Posted on 5/12/15 at 7:54 am to Tigerstark
Theres a rumor y'all will be signing Ings this summer.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:20 am to KneffLSU
Yeah ings and milner both on a free - though ings will have a cost due to his age. Those rumors have been going strong since january.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:30 am to Tigerstark
Nothing says "We're firmly committed to finishing 6th in the table" like signing Ings and Milner. God I hope there's more to come than them.
Posted on 5/16/15 at 7:47 am to SetTheMood
Well, I'm probably going to fricking cry today.
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