re: OFFICIAL LFC 16/17 Season Long Thread - Piss off, Gunners!!

So I'll just say, if Clyne had the name "Moreno" on the back of his shirt he'd have been absolutely slaughtered for the last two games. Two defensive errors leading to goals. I think we all need to keep this in mind going forward. If you're going to slag off one fullback and give the other a pass for the same thing you aren't being fair. The fact that Milner is being talked about at all for the goal is how evident the double standard is for the left and right fullback.

Not addressed to anyone in particular, just a public service announcement.

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I think you are correct but I also think he was put in a bad situation on the goal today. The only reason he gets a pass I believe is because we have seen him do the job. I will admit they he has to get better but I believe he will.

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Oh I think he's one of the best RBs in the league. I'm just saying, blame should be allocated appropriately in these situations.

Agreed with all of your points.

Not really sure how you blame Clyne for that goal.

Milner could have done a lot better defending the left flank but he really didn't do bad. Then they really just made good runs into the box occupying our back line. Mané made the choice of defending Alli at the top of the 18 (which I think was ok) and the ball just happened to make its was to Rose. I thought Mignolet did the right thing to close and closed off most of the goal, but Rose caught the ball on the outside of his foot on a little half volley and barely snuck it in near post.

You could nitpick that we should have done better in certain situations but really I just think it's an unfortunate situation that didn't work out in our favor and you have to give them some credit.

I was just disappointed that we didn't finish our chances better. Other than that, we really played well for the most part.

Just sucks seeing us not being able to catch the breaks that United, City, and Chelsea are getting

I'll also throw in, if you'd have offered me 4 points from our first 3 (all on the road) I probably would have taken it.

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So I'll just say, if Clyne had the name "Moreno" on the back of his shirt he'd have been absolutely slaughtered for the last two games.

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I mentioned something similar last week..

I think Milner did okay for not being a defender... he's going to make mistakes and I don't blame him for that... I hope they aren't too costly..

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Not really sure how you blame Clyne for that goal.

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I'm not saying it was a howler or anything, but he was the primary person at fault in that situation.

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Mané made the choice of defending Alli at the top of the 18 (which I think was ok) and the ball just happened to make its was to Rose.

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It had nothing to do with Mane. Clyne was on the far side of the field with the benefit of having the entire run of play in front of him. Lallana followed Lamela from the midfield and had him covered. Clyne was on the far side of the box with the benefit of being able to see that Lamela was covered by Adam already as he ran into the box. Instead of realizing he would be leaving one of his two defensive responsibilities (Alli and Rose), he needlessly double teamed the crashing midfielder and left a wide open Rose. An unlucky goal, but one that should have been snuffed out nonetheless. Its not even close to the worst defensive error, but an error still.

Fair enough. I thought Adam had him covered, but I see where you're coming from. We can agree to disagree on this one as either situation could've been what happened.

And one of the best finishers in the league was riding the pine. I must admit that I am confused as to the handling of Sturridge. I really thought that if he was healthy it was a no brainier that he is up front. I know Klopp likes the press and the free flowing interchangeable parts but you have to put the damn ball in the net and he does that as well as anyone I the league.

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It looks to me that Sturridge is afraid to sprint and does the really fit in with the pressing style that Klopp wants.

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There's 3 options with regard to Sturridge and Klopp's system: (1) He doesn't "get it" and he thinks if he's started on the right wing he's required to remain on the right wing (and Klopp has explained why this isn't true), (2) he's physically incapable of operating in Klopp's system as his position requires, or (3) he's mentally incapable of operating in Klopp's system because he doesn't want to.

Compare and contrast Firmino's work on the pitch to when Sturridge is on the pitch. That right there is why Firmino starts and Sturridge watches from the bench.

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Either way, biggest thing I was disappointed with was lack of conversion.

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Yep. Should've had at least 3. I'd have taken a point away at WHL before the season in a heartbeat, but given the amount of clear cut chances we saw, I can't help but feel disappointed.