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re: NYT Exclusive: Top FIFA officials (but not Blatter) indicted, face extradition to U.S.

Posted on 5/27/15 at 5:28 pm to
Posted by Dijkstra
Michael J. Fox's location in time.
Member since Sep 2007
8738 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 5:28 pm to
I think that UEFA is going to take a stand here. They stand to gain from FIFA being shaken up.
Posted by DoreonthePlains
Auburn, AL
Member since Nov 2013
7436 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 5:31 pm to
With so many CONCACAF officials embroiled in the arrests and the office being raided, I think they're too scared to say anything. It might be tomorrow evening before they release anything too substantial. The rest of the world is probably just in absolute shock at the balls of America and Switzerland.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15903 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 5:41 pm to
Yeah I wouldn't read too much into CONCACAF saying nothing yet. The world is showing their fangs directly to FIFA right now. Let them handle the PR today, regroup and release a statement later.
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
8515 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 6:01 pm to
I was expecting some negative US sentiment from those outside the US just because of the anti US sentiment that happens occasionally when it can be perceived that we are playing world police.


But am I surprised to read the glowing praise for the US Justice system and the FBI. The articles and comments I have been reading are universally praising the US for these moves. A lot of people are more upset that the countries that care the most about football neglected this to the point the US has to step in. But they are mostly grateful. For some reason I am shocked by these sentiments.

Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36419 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 6:11 pm to
Pardon my ignorance of the situation, but what are the chances that the World Cup is removed from Qatar and relocated (as it absolutely should be)?
Posted by PTBob
Member since Nov 2010
7071 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 6:20 pm to
nobody really knows.

we're all crossing are fingers tho.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
11637 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 6:22 pm to
I'm not ruling anything out now. In the last 24 hours we've become the saviors of football and we don't even call it football. Let's keep riding this momentum until we get 2022 and appoint Landycakes as FIFA president.
This post was edited on 5/27/15 at 6:23 pm
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 6:46 pm to
quote:


I was expecting some negative US sentiment from those outside the US just because of the anti US sentiment that happens occasionally when it can be perceived that we are playing world police.


But am I surprised to read the glowing praise for the US Justice system and the FBI. The articles and comments I have been reading are universally praising the US for these moves. A lot of people are more upset that the countries that care the most about football neglected this to the point the US has to step in. But they are mostly grateful. For some reason I am shocked by these sentiments.




All of the people I've talked to today agree that, in this case, the ends justify the means.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28432 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 7:00 pm to
The Gold Cup media rights were one of the schemes for which these people are being prosecuted. I pulled this from the actual indictment, which can be found HERE.

quote:

B. CONCACAF Gold Cup Scheme
133. A few years after Co-Conspirator #2 entered into
a bribe scheme with CONMEBOL officials in connection with the
Copa América, Co-Conspirator #2 entered into a similar scheme
with CONCACAF officials in connection with CONCACAF’s analogue
to the Copa América: the Gold Cup.
134. In or about 1991, CONCACAF began organizing and
promoting the Gold Cup, a tournament featuring member
associations of CONCACAF and, in later years, those of other
confederations.
135. In or about 1992, Co-Conspirator #2 relocated to
the United States in part to seek additional business
opportunities for Traffic USA in the period leading up to the
1994 World Cup, which was to be hosted by the United States.

During this period, Co-Conspirator #2 and Co-Conspirator #3, a
Traffic USA executive based in Miami, variously began
negotiations with high-ranking CONCACAF officials, including the
defendant JACK WARNER and Co-Conspirator #1, for Traffic USA to
purchase the media and marketing rights associated with the Gold
Cup. Negotiations regarding the rights took place in the United
States.

136. Co-Conspirator #2’s pitch to CONCACAF, in sum and
substance, was that Traffic could replicate the commercial and
sporting success it had had with the Copa América and make the
Gold Cup a similar success. On or about October 3, 1994,
Traffic USA entered into a contract with CONCACAF for $9.75
million for the commercial rights associated with the 1996,
1998, and 2000 editions of the Gold Cup. Beginning with the
1996 Gold Cup and continuing for four subsequent editions of the
tournament (1998, 2000, 2002, and 2003), pursuant to the
contract with Traffic USA (as subsequently amended and renewed
following additional negotiations), CONCACAF granted to Traffic
USA the exclusive worldwide commercial rights to the Gold Cup.
137. During this period, Traffic caused hundreds of
thousands of dollars in bribe payments to be made to the
defendant JACK WARNER and Co-Conspirator #1, including payments
that were made from or through banks based in the United States.

138. For example, on or about March 29, 1999, Traffic
caused $200,000 to be wired to a correspondent account at
Barclays Bank in New York, New York, for credit to an account
held in the name of an entity controlled by Co-Conspirator #1 at
Barclays Bank in the Cayman Islands. Approximately three weeks
later, on April 23, 1999, $100,000 – half of the amount paid to
Co-Conspirator #1 - was transferred from Co-Conspirator #1’s
Cayman account to an account at First Citizens Bank in Trinidad
and Tobago, held in the name of the defendant JACK WARNER. As
it had done in connection with the Copa América scheme, Traffic
used an intermediary to make the payment to Co-Conspirator #1 in
order to conceal the source and nature of the payment.
139. In or about 2003, CONCACAF terminated its
contract with Traffic for Gold Cup media rights.
This post was edited on 5/27/15 at 7:01 pm
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28432 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 7:27 pm to
How Warner helped buy SA the WC in 2010, and then subsequently screwed his co-conspirators over.

quote:

2010 FIFA World Cup Vote Scheme
185. In or about 2004, the FIFA executive committee
considered bids from Morocco, South Africa and Egypt, as well as
other nations that withdrew before the vote, to host the 2010
World Cup.
186. Previously, the defendant JACK WARNER and his
family had cultivated ties with South African soccer officials

in connection with and subsequent to a failed bid by South
Africa to host the 2006 World Cup. In the early 2000s, CoConspirator
#14, a member of WARNER’s family, had used WARNER’s
contacts in South Africa to organize friendly matches for
CONCACAF teams to play in South Africa. At one point, WARNER
also directed Co-Conspirator #14 to fly to Paris, France and
accept a briefcase containing bundles of U.S. currency in
$10,000 stacks in a hotel room from Co-Conspirator #15, a highranking
South African bid committee official. Hours after
arriving in Paris, Co-Conspirator #14 boarded a return flight
and carried the briefcase back to Trinidad and Tobago, where CoConspirator
#14 provided it to WARNER.
187. In the months before the selection of the host
nation for the 2010 World Cup, which was scheduled to take place
in May 2004, the defendant JACK WARNER and Co-Conspirator #1
traveled to Morocco as they had done in 1992, in advance of the
voting for the 1998 World Cup host. While in Morocco during the
2004 trip, a representative of the Moroccan bid committee
offered to pay $1 million to WARNER in exchange for his
agreement to cast his secret ballot on the FIFA executive
committee for Morocco to host the 2010 World Cup.
188. Subsequently, Co-Conspirator #1 learned from the
defendant JACK WARNER that high-ranking officials of FIFA, the

South African government, and the South African bid committee,
including Co-Conspirator #16, were prepared to arrange for the
government of South Africa to pay $10 million to CFU to “support
the African diaspora.” Co-Conspirator #1 understood the offer
to be in exchange for the agreement of WARNER, Co-Conspirator
#1, and Co-Conspirator #17 to all vote for South Africa, rather
than Morocco, to host the 2010 World Cup. At the time, CoConspirator
#17, like WARNER and Co-Conspirator #1, was a FIFA
executive committee member. WARNER indicated that he had
accepted the offer and told Co-Conspirator #1 that he would give
a $1 million portion of the $10 million payment to CoConspirator
#1.
189. In FIFA’s executive committee vote held on May
15, 2004, South Africa was selected over Morocco and Egypt to
host the 2010 World Cup. The defendant JACK WARNER, CoConspirator
#1, and Co-Conspirator #17 indicated that they voted
for South Africa.
190. In the months and years after the vote, CoConspirator
#1 periodically asked WARNER about the status of the
$10 million payment.
191. At one point, Co-Conspirator #1 learned that the
South Africans were unable to arrange for the payment to be made
directly from government funds. Arrangements were thereafter

made with FIFA officials to instead have the $10 million sent
from FIFA – using funds that would otherwise have gone from FIFA
to South Africa to support the World Cup - to CFU.
192. In fact, on January 2, 2008, January 31, 2008 and
March 7, 2008, a high-ranking FIFA official caused payments of
$616,000, $1,600,000, and $7,784,000 – totaling $10 million – to
be wired from a FIFA account in Switzerland to a Bank of America
correspondent account in New York, New York, for credit to
accounts held in the names of CFU and CONCACAF, but controlled
by the defendant JACK WARNER, at Republic Bank in Trinidad and
Tobago.
193. Soon after receiving these wire transfers, the
defendant JACK WARNER caused a substantial portion of the funds
to be diverted for his personal use. For example, on January 9,
2008, WARNER directed Republic Bank officials to apply $200,000
of the $616,000 that had been transferred into a CFU account
from FIFA one week earlier toward a personal loan account held
in his name.
194. The defendant JACK WARNER also diverted a portion
of the funds into his personal accounts by laundering the funds
through intermediaries. For example, during the period from
January 16, 2008 to March 27, 2008, WARNER caused approximately
$1.4 million of the $10 million to be transferred to Individual

#1, a Trinidadian businessman whose identity is known to the
Grand Jury, and Trinidadian Company A, a large supermarket chain
in Trinidad and Tobago controlled by Individual #1. Weeks
later, checks totaling approximately the same amount and drawn
on an account held in the name of Trinidadian Company B, a real
estate and investment company also controlled by Individual #1,
were deposited into a bank account held in the name of WARNER
and a family member at First Citizens Bank in Trinidad and
Tobago. The identities of Trinidadian Company A and Trinidadian
Company B are known to the Grand Jury.
195. During the three years following WARNER’s receipt
of the $10 million from FIFA, WARNER made three payments to CoConspirator
#1, totaling over $750,000, in partial payment of
the $1 million that WARNER had earlier promised Co-Conspirator
#1 as part of the bribe scheme.
196. The first payment, in the amount of $298,500, was
made by wire transfer sent on or about December 19, 2008 from an
account held in the name of CFU at Republic Bank in Trinidad and
Tobago, to a Bank of America correspondent account in New York,
New York, for credit to an account controlled by Co-Conspirator
#1 at a bank in the Cayman Islands.
197. The second payment, in the amount of $205,000,
was made by check drawn on an account held in the name of CFU at

Republic Bank in Trinidad and Tobago. On or about September 27,
2010, Co-Conspirator #1 caused the check to be deposited into
his Merrill Lynch brokerage account in New York, New York.
Approximately one month earlier, on or about August 23, 2010,
WARNER sent an email to Co-Conspirator #1 to advise him that the
payment was forthcoming.
198. The third payment, in the amount of $250,000, was
made by check drawn on an account held in the name of CFU at
Republic Bank in Trinidad and Tobago. The check was delivered
to Co-Conspirator #1 by another individual who traveled by
airplane from Trinidad and Tobago to JFK International Airport
in Queens, New York, and then to CONCACAF’s headquarters in New
York, New York, where he delivered the check to Co-Conspirator
#1. A representative of FirstCaribbean International Bank in
the Bahamas, where Co-Conspirator #1 held another account,
subsequently traveled by airplane to New York, landing at
Kennedy Airport. After arriving, the bank representative
traveled to New York, New York, where he took custody of the
check. He subsequently traveled to the Bahamas and, on or about
May 3, 2011, deposited the check into Co-Conspirator #1’s
account. Approximately two months earlier, on or about March
13, 2011, WARNER sent an email to Co-Conspirator #1 to advise
him that the payment was forthcoming.

199. Co-Conspirator #1 never received the balance of
the promised $1 million payment.


Poor co-conspirator #1
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

Poor co-conspirator #1


Might be Chuck Blazer.

This incredible article was linked a year or so ago but it got no traction. LINK
Posted by WarSlamEagle
Manchester United Fan
Member since Sep 2011
24611 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:08 pm to
quote:

@WilliamsJon: Visa: "Should #FIFA fail to make changes now, have informed them we will reassess sponsorship." Give FIFA $170m as one of 6 global partners

Now you're speaking FIFA's language.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28432 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:09 pm to
I bet Sepp's a-hole is puckered so hard right now, especially since he's not allowed to leave the country for the time being.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
11637 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:17 pm to
Anybody else hope they find out Fox bribed FIFA to get the WC rights so we can get it back on ESPN?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422585 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:17 pm to
i'm sure the US DOJ has sent some back channel information to US companies about doing business with FIFA, esp financial institutions like Visa
Posted by Dijkstra
Michael J. Fox's location in time.
Member since Sep 2007
8738 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:48 pm to
From what I'm reading, the DOJ pretty much waited until what they had was basically airtight before making moves. Judging by how quickly these guys are caving, they probably have a lot more than they're letting on. If these guys are surrendering and admitting to bribe money up to $150 million this quickly, there's probably much worse going on up the totem pole that they're cutting deals to avoid.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50253 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:51 pm to
quote:

i'm sure the US DOJ has sent some back channel information to US companies about doing business with FIFA, esp financial institutions like Visa

Master Card, Coke, many others, I´m sure. Nike´s already been implicated, have they not?
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24155 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:54 pm to
Cutting deals won't stop the DOJ from going up latter. If anything, it may expedite the process of getting to the top of the totem pole.
This post was edited on 5/27/15 at 9:26 pm
Posted by Dijkstra
Michael J. Fox's location in time.
Member since Sep 2007
8738 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:56 pm to
quote:

Nike´s already been implicated, have they not?


Outside of being explicitly referenced by name, pretty much. I wonder if this explains Nike's drastic step back from the game recently. They've seemed to want to get out of kits at the very least. Maybe they knew shite was about to get real.

Does Nike knowing the DOJ was about to rain down fire and brimstone explain the awful US kits for both men and women this year? That would actually make sense because before now it was like they were designing them in Microsoft Word or something. Those weird gradients are shite.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50253 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:58 pm to
I´m sure Nike HQ is going to blame it on Nike Europe (Netherlands).
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