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re: MLS ratings down, attendance figures even more fictitious than previously thought
Posted on 4/14/17 at 11:03 am to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 4/14/17 at 11:03 am to Draconian Sanctions
Look, I'm not saying you are completely wrong. There is just another way to do it. And that's the American sports model. Let them try it. The league continues to grow.
And it irks me a little that Cosmos can't get into MLS, but they fricked that up years ago and MLS aren't just going to hang the two NY clubs out to dry now, so I kind of get it.
And it irks me a little that Cosmos can't get into MLS, but they fricked that up years ago and MLS aren't just going to hang the two NY clubs out to dry now, so I kind of get it.
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Posted on 4/14/17 at 11:05 am to Draconian Sanctions
We likely don't. In my mind MLS just creates an MLS2, and drops the bottom 10 or whatever into at that time while likely poaching teams from the other two leagues.
What's your thinking?
What's your thinking?
Posted on 4/14/17 at 11:06 am to Xenophon
Before anyone jumps on me- im not saying we should do pro/reg but as the USL is gaining steam, and has a solid thing going for itself, will there ever be anything between the two?
eta - is it normal for "minor leagues games" to be televised. STLFC game starting this weekend will be televised in the STL metro.
eta - is it normal for "minor leagues games" to be televised. STLFC game starting this weekend will be televised in the STL metro.
This post was edited on 4/14/17 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 4/14/17 at 11:07 am to Draconian Sanctions
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You seem really upset
Hahahaha, we doing this internet trope?
Just take the L, don't start this "u mad bro" stuff
Posted on 4/14/17 at 11:14 am to mizslu314
I don't know. I'm sure there are some back alley agreements out there, but we likely won't know until they happen.
I mean, MLS could eventually be a two league first division. An east and west with 20 teams apiece. Or something different. I'm sure they know what they want for the future, but it's not stated.
I mean, MLS could eventually be a two league first division. An east and west with 20 teams apiece. Or something different. I'm sure they know what they want for the future, but it's not stated.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 11:39 am to Xenophon
It would be sort of like what they have in Mexico, a 3 year weighted average for one relegation spot each in the western and eastern conferences. A second division with a similar set up that feeds into a regionalized 3rd tier and beyond.
The MLS1 and MLS2 idea would bet better than nothing though. If they actually did that and phased out single entity so you don't ever have to worry about the league literally changing the rules midseason anymore I'd still have a problem with the lack of access at the lower levels into MLS1 and 2 but I would take it. I seriously doubt we'll ever see anything even as mild as that though. But hey I've been wrong before. I would definitely give the league a fresh look.
The MLS1 and MLS2 idea would bet better than nothing though. If they actually did that and phased out single entity so you don't ever have to worry about the league literally changing the rules midseason anymore I'd still have a problem with the lack of access at the lower levels into MLS1 and 2 but I would take it. I seriously doubt we'll ever see anything even as mild as that though. But hey I've been wrong before. I would definitely give the league a fresh look.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 11:43 am to Draconian Sanctions
Dude, simply put...you are wrong. I work for an MLS organization that is in it's 8th year, and the last 3 we have seen attendance grow, and monetarily we have grown each year. Last year we surpassed the previous season's revenue budget by 800k, this season we are already at almost 800k of added revenue, and will likely finish 1.3 million ahead. So in 2 years, our team's revenue will have grown by $2 million.
Since 2010 our team has grown over 400%. We are worth an estimated $185 million now. You can continue to say MLS doesn't do this the right way, or this the right way, or that...but attendance is growing and money is flowing with that. There are many articles out there with false information. I have first hand, straight behind the scenes knowledge. The MLS is growing, and that's why the expansion fee is growing.
You continue to speak like your word is gospel, and simply put..YOU ARE WRONG. You just love to criticize and belittle the league. Come talk to me in 10 years, until then, just shut up and don't support the MLS. Those of us who do want to support it, Let us enjoy it.
Since 2010 our team has grown over 400%. We are worth an estimated $185 million now. You can continue to say MLS doesn't do this the right way, or this the right way, or that...but attendance is growing and money is flowing with that. There are many articles out there with false information. I have first hand, straight behind the scenes knowledge. The MLS is growing, and that's why the expansion fee is growing.
You continue to speak like your word is gospel, and simply put..YOU ARE WRONG. You just love to criticize and belittle the league. Come talk to me in 10 years, until then, just shut up and don't support the MLS. Those of us who do want to support it, Let us enjoy it.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 11:45 am to Draconian Sanctions
Relegation is 20 years away if ever. People who don't like the MLS because they don't like relegation are stupid. Relegation in other countries have teams that have been around for 100 years. If you pay $150 mil for an expansion team, then your 1st year you're relegated...frick that
Posted on 4/14/17 at 11:48 am to LSUButt
I never said MLS wasn't growing. But the growth is clearly uneven at best and the way the league is set up is limiting that growth not just at the top level but at all levels.
Who is stopping you from enjoying it? Did I force you to click on this thread? What is a soccer message board for if not for expressing our views on soccer?
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Those of us who do want to support it, Let us enjoy it.
Who is stopping you from enjoying it? Did I force you to click on this thread? What is a soccer message board for if not for expressing our views on soccer?
Posted on 4/14/17 at 11:51 am to LSUButt
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If you pay $150 mil for an expansion team, then your 1st year you're relegated...frick that
You could use the Liga MX version which weighs the previous 3 years and limit it to 1 relegation spot per conference. You could even factor in the initial period over 5 years to get everyone used to it.
I don't have any interest in being punitive, but in a global game you need both the carrot of a championship and the stick of relegation to act as an incentive for making sure each club is doing all they can to move forward and not to prop up bad owners. Without it the US will never ever have a top world league and our national team will never win a World Cup.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 11:56 am to LSUButt
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People who don't like the MLS because they don't like relegation are stupid.
Kindergarten level discourse here
I know you are but what am I?
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