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Posted on 1/5/11 at 8:09 pm to Ryne Sandberg
Just watched it, had it DVRd wow, can't believe we escaped that one with a draw.
Posted on 1/6/11 at 10:17 am to fouldeliverer
Posted on 1/6/11 at 10:33 am to Ryne Sandberg
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When Jose Mourinho took Inter Milan to Barcelona in the Champions League semi-finals last season and nullified the the threat of Lionel Messi and co, earning a 0-0 draw en route to winning the trophy, it was hailed as a tactical masterstroke.
And when Sir Alex Ferguson also eked out a goalless draw at the Nou Camp at the same stage in 2008, United eventually going on to win the competition, he was praised for suppressing Barca and obtaining such a crucial result.
Champions League knockout stages are always contextual. United and Inter both had victories and goals up on Barca, so it was the logical choice that they not concede any goals.
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So why the derision towards Mancini and City? Jealosuy.
I'm not jealosu. I'm nonplussed that the excuse for City's offensive impotence comes down to 2 players being absent (Maryo + Silva).
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City have spent £350million on players since becoming the world's richest club and, as such, envious opponents and their fans expect more from a team with such formidable spending power.
So failing to meet expectation = jealousy? Poor logic.
Anyhow, I see the merits of his central thesis, but he did a very poor job at illustrating why it's "right" or "correct." Article was almost as annoying as the match.
Posted on 1/6/11 at 10:38 am to Ryne Sandberg
Man City's resiliency was commendable yesterday, though I'd say luck and poor finishing by Arsenal early had more to do with them keeping a clean sheet than Mancini's tactics.
The article is poor. Comparing yesterday's match to two Champions League semi-final cup ties, one of which was a second leg where Inter had a lead going into the match, is silly. Completely different. I had a bit of a problem with Inter's tactics last year, but I can understand teams shutting it down when they have a lead. Man City did start out that match trying to absorb pressure and counter attack, but they didn't try that at all the second half and did really seem to do it with much vigor in the first. The excuse of Silva and Balotelli being out forcing Mancini to play that way is also garbage. They've spent all sorts of money bringing guys like Adebayor, Roque Santa Cruz, and Adam Johnson but 2 of them can't even make the bench (5 defenders, really?) and the other had a center forward preferred to him on the wing. Zero shots on target is bad for any team.
Mancini's tactics were effective so I'll give him credit for that. To each their own. I just prefer to watch teams that actually try and play football and win games.
The article is poor. Comparing yesterday's match to two Champions League semi-final cup ties, one of which was a second leg where Inter had a lead going into the match, is silly. Completely different. I had a bit of a problem with Inter's tactics last year, but I can understand teams shutting it down when they have a lead. Man City did start out that match trying to absorb pressure and counter attack, but they didn't try that at all the second half and did really seem to do it with much vigor in the first. The excuse of Silva and Balotelli being out forcing Mancini to play that way is also garbage. They've spent all sorts of money bringing guys like Adebayor, Roque Santa Cruz, and Adam Johnson but 2 of them can't even make the bench (5 defenders, really?) and the other had a center forward preferred to him on the wing. Zero shots on target is bad for any team.
Mancini's tactics were effective so I'll give him credit for that. To each their own. I just prefer to watch teams that actually try and play football and win games.
Posted on 1/6/11 at 10:09 pm to Friend of OBUDan
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Man City's resiliency was commendable yesterday
I have to agree. I was very annoyed at the end of the game, but the failure was on us, not them. We were very close to breaking them down on many occasions, and we played into their hands by not bringing on a real aerial threat to put pressure on Kolo at the very least, who has never been great in the air. Our ability to break down extremely defensive teams is much better than in years past, but we still lack a quality finisher on the level of an Henry. Adebayor was great one year, and Van Persie was decent the next, but we desperately need to find someone who'll put away chances, or create chances out of nothing. We also need to find a way to get the ball to Van Persie's feet in between the lines, rather than him dropping past the opposition midfield. It serves us no purpose as the CB usually won't follow VP that deep. It also opens up space for sharper diagonal runs, more horizontal than vertical, from the wide players, opening up areas of the pitch in serious ways.
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