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BleedPurpleGold
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re: Liverpool FC 2013/2014 - Season Long Thread

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I just don't know what to do with Gerrard, other than limit him to 60 min per game.


Well I mean, you could just try him there. I just worry he would float inside and crowd Cou out.


Meursault
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re: Liverpool FC 2013/2014 - Season Long Thread
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I just worry he would float inside and crowd Cou out.


Exactly. It would push Cou out, and push Suarez up. That is how I would see it playing out. Similar to the 4-4-2 I suppose, with Johnson being the primary winger on the right.

So then I guess... just make a 4-4-2 lineup right?

I'll say this... early on last season I liked what I saw with the overlaps, give-and-gos and what not with Johnson and Sterling. I saw a spark there with Johnson playing mentor to the lad.
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BleedPurpleGold
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re: Liverpool FC 2013/2014 - Season Long Thread
They certainly had some chemistry. The great thing about Sterling is he's willing to take men on. I know he hasn't been popular this season, but its something we sorely lack. Cissokho has been so timid, its startling. I just don't understand why he refuses to take men on. It's what we bought him for! The second he steps foot in the attacking third he stops running and looks for the pass. At first I thought maybe it was because Johnson was pushing far up and BR may have wanted Aly further back in case he was needed on defense. But every time he passes the ball he bounds forward past the right back looking for a give and go. I would assume that means his orders are to push. If so, he's failing miserably.


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re: Liverpool FC 2013/2014 - Season Long Thread
I've got one word: Cissokho. He was responsible for both goals conceded against Newcastle. He did not attack the Cabaye shot and he was horrible at marking for the free kick that resulted in their second. Against Arsenal he was extremely one dimensional. Charging up the pitch and pinging in a horrible cross or losing out far up the pitch. Their first goal he was stranded at the halfway line with his back to the ball. What defender has his back to the ball at the halfway line.

He is incapable of tackling, he doesn't have any skills on the ball, he shirks away from contact, has no quality on his crosses. When he is up the pitch it looks like he has no clue what he is doing. Give me back Enrique.
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LSUSOBEAST1
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re: Liverpool FC 2013/2014 - Season Long Thread
In my delusional world I would drop Gerrard before Lucas and try something like this:

Mignolet, Johnson, Kolo, Agger, Enrique, Lucas, Henderson, Allen, Coutinho, Sturridge, Suarez


LSUSOBEAST1
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re: Liverpool FC 2013/2014 - Season Long Thread
Cissokho played like shite. Sagna beat him on Arsenal's first, but they still don't score that if Gerrard tracks back.


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BleedPurpleGold
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re: Liverpool FC 2013/2014 - Season Long Thread
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I would drop Gerrard before Lucas


If no reason other than to just give him a rest.
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LSUSOBEAST1
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I think having two extremely energetic midfielders surrounding Lucas would really help cover the space he leaves behind. I do think Lucas is a good player, but he is exposed in a 3-man midfield, and he creates a lot of space for the opposing team when he comes out for his usual poor tackle. I don't think Gerrard has the legs to cover that space anymore.

Lucas is an enigma. He has gone from severely underrated under Dalglish, to now extremely overrated under Rodgers. I still maintain that he isn't a defensive midfielder: his passing is better than his tackling and that is enough proof for me.


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Meursault
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re: Liverpool FC 2013/2014 - Season Long Thread
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Allen


Wow, I've completely forgotten about him.

So you drop Gerrard. Your logic is sound, but.... It's Gerrard...


TFTC
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re: Liverpool FC 2013/2014 - Season Long Thread
I actually like the formation now, and think it's more our MF that have the issues... I prefer LS and DS in a central position and not on the wings... Coutinho too...

Ideally, I'd have Agger in the middle of the back 3 and would play Kolo/Skrtel as a RCB based on form.

Johnson and Enrique have to start when healthy..

I'll say it one more time, but we need a quality DM in January (for any system we run to be effective)... Lucas has either never fully recovered from his injury or I was severely duped that first season under Dalglish... I still like Coutinho in the #10 role, but feel he needs to be pushed by someone (Pastore would be a dream if links are true)...

The hard part is what to do with Gerrard. He started very slow last year (many called for him to be dropped) and ended up playing through it and having a great 2/3 of the season on the back end... I do think it's time for Jordan or Allen to give him a break in games... and hopefully he will quit International play after the WC... I would like us to go after someone like Ivan Rakitic (Sevilla) and sell Allen...

Anyway, thats my 2 cents...


crazy4lsu
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I would like us to go after someone like Ivan Rakitic (Sevilla) and sell Allen...


This dude is awesome. Love him.


TFTC
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This dude is awesome. Love him.


I love his all action style... He can score goals, good short and long passing game and is not afraid to put in a defensive shift..

He wanted to leave Sevilla this summer due to them selling off their best players and lack of ambition... they still need money... get him in and loan back Alberto (He needs playing time).


crazy4lsu
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re: Liverpool FC 2013/2014 - Season Long Thread
I'd buy him to replace Arteta. Hope we are in for him if he does leave.


TFTC
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'd buy him to replace Arteta. Hope we are in for him if he does leave.


No, no, no... you guys are fine in the MF...

Actually, Ever Banega wouldn't be a bad second option.

Love to see us bring in Pastore/Rakitic/M'Villa... Doubt we bring in 3 MFers... M'Villa (or another DM) if given a choice... he could probably be had and I gotta imagine he's ready to get out of Russia


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LSUSOBEAST1
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re: Liverpool FC 2013/2014 - Season Long Thread
I think the formation can work if Johnson and Enrique are healthy and if Agger is paired with Sakho, instead of Skrtel. I don't think Skrtel and Sakho are a good pairing. They are both entirely too aggressive, and both are wild at points.

I do think the formation gets our best XI on the field fwiw, but I'm not sold that it gives us our best shot at winning against top teams.


LSUSOBEAST1
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re: Liverpool FC 2013/2014 - Season Long Thread
Side note: I do think we are probably trying to draw too many conclusions from a match in which LFC simply lost to a significantly better squad.

I do think we should have performed better, and the lineup was odd to say the least, but a result at the Emirates against that squad was always going to be tough.


TFTC
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re: Liverpool FC 2013/2014 - Season Long Thread
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Side note: I do think we are probably trying to draw too many conclusions from a match in which LFC simply lost to a significantly better squad.

I do think we should have performed better, and the lineup was odd to say the least, but a result at the Emirates against that squad was always going to be tough.


I agree, its the same formation that has been pretty good for SAS scoring... Johnson was out and Flanno offered nothing going forward... Also, you saw glimpses of Cou's brilliance he just needs to knock the rust off and he gives us something in the attcking third no other MFer we have does... I mean, this squad could've gone top of the table if we'd have won... We are in good shape, but we must improve and reinforce in Jan...


LSUSOBEAST1
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re: Liverpool FC 2013/2014 - Season Long Thread
We could have gone top of the table, but let's not forget we are 1 point from 7th place.


TFTC
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re: Liverpool FC 2013/2014 - Season Long Thread
I know... We will be lucky to go in to January still in top 4.

Luckily Man U isnt at their best and after spending £100mm, Tottenham didnt buy anyone who can score goals... But Soton, Everton are playing well too...

Should be intersting, but make no mistake... a top 4 spot is there to be had...


tsmi136
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re: Liverpool FC 2013/2014 - Season Long Thread
I think Tottenham will be finding their feet soon. The main reason they don't score goals is because AVB sacrifices an attacking minded team for a defensive team. They have the ability to score but AVB just rates defense as a higher priority


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