Jurgen Klinsmann blames the refs, calls U.S. fans dumb and shits on the MLS

Yeah he needs to go. He has been riding that 3rd place in 2006 for too long.

Who do you bring in??

We cannot go backwards, we must have some one who is in charge of every phase of development, from HS club soccer, u-17's, to the First team.

Isn't KC building a complex for Team USA development?


Can't bring in a guy who just wants to coach, we need some one who is going to see the development on all phases, as well as coach.

We've had guys who were coaches, and we had major holes in development because of it.

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Can't bring in a guy who just wants to coach, we need some one who is going to see the development on all phases, as well as coach

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Why not? That is ideal. Technical Directors can develop over time. Coaches are about the games and results. I'd fully support JK as Technical Director. I think we need a new manager though.

don't blame the refs for losing to fricking Jamaica then call everyone dumb for being disappointed.

Dont play the blame game... Shut the frick up and be better, Jurgen.

The fans knowledge of the game has ZERO to do in anything going on with the team


"Do they understand really what happened in the gold cup"

Uh, yeah. You lost to fricking Jamaica. That's what happened.

Jurgen pointing fingers at other people for his failures? Well I never...

It's not like anything he says really means anything, ever.

Analysis: Confident or Just Stubborn? Jurgen Sticks to His Guns

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Beyond the question of whether these are even the best available American players, many called into the team not playing well for their clubs—or simply not playing at all.

Midfielder Joe Corona has been substituted out of three straight Liga MX games due to form. Greg Garza has been struggling for Atlas and was not part of the matchday 18 last weekend. Mix Diskerud is not playing well for New York City FC and Tottenham's DeAndre Yedlin is still not playing at all as he awaits a potential loan deal. William Yarbrough is the backup at Club Leon and Michael Orozco has not stood out at Club Tijuana.

What gives?

Shortly after Klinsmann was hired in 2011, he had this to say ahead of a friendly against Ecuador:

“I sent a message in my first get-together for the Mexico game and I said for me the most important thing for you guys is that you play,” Klinsmann said. “If you’re on the bench somewhere, it doesn’t matter in Europe or in MLS, or in Mexico, you have a problem coming in here. And so that is very important for the players to know. First comes the rhythm with their club team and then we pick them up from that rhythm.”

Apparently, things have changed. Klinsmann says he emphasizes competition for positions on the field but too many players simply earn their call-ups regardless of form or playing time. Part of the reason could be that the player pool is simply not very deep at the moment. There are not a lot options outside of this core that Klinsmann feels particularly comfortable using.

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Here is a great analogy about Jurgen comparing him to RGIII:

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The United States national team under Jurgen Klinsmann is much like Tim
Tebow, or even like Robert Griffin. Tebow had one good season with the
Denver Broncos. As a quarterback, he didn't play well in terms of doing
what a quarterback should do best, which is pass. He ran the ball a lot
and led the team to the second round of the playoffs using
unconventional skills for a quarterback, such as grit. But as would be
proven, a quarterback like Tebow cannot have long-term success in the
sport unless he can perform well in the fundamental act of passing. Grit
can only go so far.

The United States team is rather similar. The team made the second round
of the last World Cup using the unconventional skill of grit. Using the
eye test, the teamed played ugly, ranking 31 out of 32 teams in
possession. But similar to Tebow, the inability to do the fundamentals
of what a good team should do (which is hold possession) will result in
severe limitations over the long term. This was evident in the last Gold
Cup. The Klinsmann-led team played ugly, and this time around their
ugly play was exposed by teams such as Jamaica and Panama no less, and
even against teams they beat such as Haiti.

By this measure, a comparison with Robert Griffin and the Washington
Redskins is also appropriate. Griffin, like Tebow, led his team to the
playoffs in one and only one season, this time using the unconventional
skill (for a quarterback) of running. And like Tebow, it would be proven
that he can't throw the ball well. Just look at recent seasons.

But the Redskins invested way too much in Griffin. He was the second
overall pick, and they traded like 5 draft picks to get him. In this
regard, the Redskins have staked much of their credibility in Griffin.
If he doesn't succeed, then management looks stupid. But any reasonable
observer would conclude that he is not the long-term solution for the
team. He can't pass or read defenses well, simple as that. But the teams
refuses to write off its mistake and go a different direction.

The United States national team is much the same. Just looking at how
the team plays, it's obvious that Klinsmann is not the solution, the
recent awful results aside. The team can't hold possession under his
style. But the country's soccer federation let go of a good coach in Bob
Bradley to bring Klinsmann on board, they gave Klinsmann a lot of power
and they're paying him a lot of money. Just like the Redskins with
Griffin, if the team lets go of Klinsmann then management looks dumb as
well. They really have to swallow their pride and go a different
direction.

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What is it that fans missed in the Jamaica game? It was absolute crap; we looked terrible just as we did for the whole tournament.

Even if we would have won that game 1-0 it still doesn't change my opinion of how we played.

Sheep and I have talked about the bullshite factor of Klinsmann many times. He loves to pander to the media by giving them hot take quotes, but doesn't actually say anything of value. More importantly, he just contradicts himself constantly, as cwill177 showed.


In essence, he's full of shite.


He called in Jermaine Jones to serve as CAPTAIN for a January friendly, after he was suspended from Schalke for a month for stomping on Marco Reus. Yet he strips Clint Dempsey of the captaincy after Dempsey had a hissy fit with an incompetent referee during a US Open Cup game. This is on top of openly criticizing certain players' form or desire or fitness, yet giving a bunch of retreads second and third chances with the national team (see: Chandler, Timmy).

He is far worse than Bob Bradley about playing favorites with his squad selections. The only difference between Klinsmann and Bradley is that Bradley is that he had to play guys like Jonathan Bornstein and John Spector because of no other options.

He was brought in to be some kind of revolutionary tactician to compliment our team's athleticism with some European savvy, yet we're far more backwards than we were four years ago.

Don't get me started about his clearly personal contention with MLS and MLS players (except old snowshoes Alan Gordon). Ventura Alvarado and Miguel Ibarra wouldn't be sniffing the national team if they were current MLS players.

I can rant more about the complete hypocrisy that is Jurgen Klinsmann's cult of personality.

He's not completely wrong, but there's parts I disagree with.

1. I don't think the refs had anything to do with the Jamaica. There were a few bad calls, but nothing game changing.

2. I think we outplayed Jamaica, but the scoreline just doesn't reflect that. I think we could have scored another goal before we subbed on Gordon. Once he came on, we just played long ball. Gordon did what he was asked to do, win balls in the air, but it just eliminated our midfield. That is on Jurgen.

3. Yes, the MLS has very little depth. Few teams can really rely on their bench; however, that doesn't mean the starters aren't worthy of being called up.