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Jozy had a grade two tear in his hamstring
Posted on 7/3/14 at 10:11 am
Posted on 7/3/14 at 10:11 am
Not shocking.
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Says last time he had it, he was out for a month.
I think if he stays healthy, we have a great shot at the top 8. He makes everyone around him better for us, and when he scores, we're so much better.
One of the biggest what ifs of the tourney for me.
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Says last time he had it, he was out for a month.
I think if he stays healthy, we have a great shot at the top 8. He makes everyone around him better for us, and when he scores, we're so much better.
One of the biggest what ifs of the tourney for me.
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 10:18 am to Stewie Griffin
His absence threw off our entire attacking shape. Hindsight says Jurgy should've brought Boyd as a backup.
Dempsey is at his best when he has space to run at people and be creative.
Subsequently, all the pressure fell on Bradley to be a #10, and that's not who he is.
Dempsey is at his best when he has space to run at people and be creative.
Subsequently, all the pressure fell on Bradley to be a #10, and that's not who he is.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 10:18 am to Stewie Griffin
I was really hoping this tourney would prove all of his nay-sayers wrong and he'd show out.
Now he'll return to Sunderland with the same doubt he left with.
Now he'll return to Sunderland with the same doubt he left with.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 10:21 am to Billy Mays
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His absence threw off our entire attacking shape. Hindsight says Jurgy should've brought Boyd as a backup.
Dempsey is at his best when he has space to run at people and be creative.
Subsequently, all the pressure fell on Bradley to be a #10, and that's not who he is.
Bingo.
Bradley was markedly better in a deeper role vs. Belgium.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 10:22 am to Bluefin
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Now he'll return to Sunderland with the same doubt he left with.
I don't think he reall ever had any doubt. He spent last season in an unfortunate situation but he knows he score. Jozy had his hand in a lot of sunderland's scoring opportunities last year but just couldn't seem to get great service to score himself. Although there were some spots where he should have scored and failed to
Posted on 7/3/14 at 10:29 am to rdw1690
Posted on 7/3/14 at 10:33 am to Billy Mays
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Hindsight says Jurgy should've brought Boyd as a backup.
I disagree with this. Bringing Donovan to step into the withheld role and pushing Dempsey up would have been more productive IMO.
ETA: And now Jozy has had a tear in each hammy hasn't he? That's not good at 25.
This post was edited on 7/3/14 at 10:35 am
Posted on 7/3/14 at 10:48 am to Billy Mays
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Hindsight says Jurgy should've brought Boyd as a backup.
The problem is boyd hasn't yet proved to be a viable replacement. Both wondo and bacon outperformed him when with the NT.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 11:07 am to cigsmcgee
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The problem is boyd hasn't yet proved to be a viable replacement. Both wondo and bacon outperformed him when with the NT.
Green didn't prove anything either, yet was still included. I would have included Boyd as a contingency plan for the same reason you include Rimando as a 3rd keeper. When Jozy went down we needed a like-for-like replacement.
Also I would remind you that Boyd was coming off a great year in Austria, and previously had very little opportunities with the NT. Which just happens to be the same as what Green had prior to the Cup as well.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 11:14 am to cigsmcgee
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The problem is boyd hasn't yet proved to be a viable replacement. Both wondo and bacon outperformed him when with the NT.
Wondo and Bacon don't have the physical presence to "post up" and hold up play. That's what we use Jozy for (other than his natural scoring ability).
I get the exclusion of Boyd, he isn't proven. It's just a hindsight thing. Jozy's injury limited our potential, regardless of backup.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 11:24 am to Billy Mays
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Green didn't prove anything either
Totally different situation.
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It's just a hindsight thing. Jozy's injury limited our potential, regardless of backup.
I feel ya, I just doubt boyd would've seen the field even if he made the cut. But who knows. The possibilty of having boyd turn into a trusted contributer is very exciting though.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 1:00 pm to Broski
There were rumors that Aron was injured and hence why he didn't feature after the Ghana game.
What annoys me most about this World Cup was exactly what y'all have mentioned above. With Jozy in the side it really frees up Clint to help us out with possession in the middle, draw defenders, open up passing lanes, etc. We're a completely different team and in my opinion our midfield would have been the biggest beneficiary of a healthy Altidore.
Even in his absence though I think Jurgen messed up by not playing two forwards. We needed two possible outlets for our midfielders, not just one in Clint who was easily marked out of the game at times. It's frustrating, and ultimately Jurgen's biggest mistake was not taking Boyd.
What annoys me most about this World Cup was exactly what y'all have mentioned above. With Jozy in the side it really frees up Clint to help us out with possession in the middle, draw defenders, open up passing lanes, etc. We're a completely different team and in my opinion our midfield would have been the biggest beneficiary of a healthy Altidore.
Even in his absence though I think Jurgen messed up by not playing two forwards. We needed two possible outlets for our midfielders, not just one in Clint who was easily marked out of the game at times. It's frustrating, and ultimately Jurgen's biggest mistake was not taking Boyd.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 1:09 pm to cwil177
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Even in his absence though I think Jurgen messed up by not playing two forwards. We needed two possible outlets for our midfielders, not just one in Clint who was easily marked out of the game at times. It's frustrating, and ultimately Jurgen's biggest mistake was not taking Boyd.
If we had played 2 forwards, one of whom hasn't done anything internationally, would we have held Portugal like we did? Would we have won the goal differential battle?
Without the play of our lesser talented wide midfielders, do we hold Ghana and Germany to 1 goal each?
Posted on 7/3/14 at 1:40 pm to Billy Mays
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Subsequently, all the pressure fell on Bradley to be a #10, and that's not who he is.
I don't think Bradley was forced to this role at all.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 1:54 pm to KosmoCramer
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I don't think Bradley was forced to this role at all.
He was already the focal point of the buildup through the midfield, but with Dempsey pushing further up the field he also became the focal point of the attack through it. He was definitely "forced" to become more attack oriented when Jozy went down.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 1:57 pm to RB10
I think it was always the plan to have Bradley step up in the attack. He was playing that way for a while now. He controlled the midfield of course but he was also distributing forward more often.
I don't think he was called on to be the star though. He wasn't expected to score goals with flair and single-handedly create chances. He was a facilitator and always will be.
I don't think he was called on to be the star though. He wasn't expected to score goals with flair and single-handedly create chances. He was a facilitator and always will be.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 2:07 pm to KosmoCramer
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I think it was always the plan to have Bradley step up in the attack. He was playing that way for a while now. He controlled the midfield of course but he was also distributing forward more often.
He was definitely always part of the attack but he had to take on a more positive role than he would have if Jozy were in. All those counters that had Bradley on the ball would have had Dempsey on it if Jozy were in the game. That's the only difference really.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 2:11 pm to KosmoCramer
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I think it was always the plan to have Bradley step up in the attack. He was playing that way for a while now. He controlled the midfield of course but he was also distributing forward more often.
I don't think he was called on to be the star though. He wasn't expected to score goals with flair and single-handedly create chances. He was a facilitator and always will be.
If not Bradley, who was supposed to attack? Beckerdreads? Brad Davis? Zusi? Jermaine Jones?
Bradley was forced to be more offensive due to the loss of Dempsey in that attacking role... this is where Bradley failed to deliver because the good first touch eluded him in the 18/20 yard range.
Bradley is a CDM at his core. He can be a CDM (or regular CM) if Landon, Jozy, and Dempsey are attacking. We didn't have that, and Bradley was forced provide a final ball time and time again in the penalty area, and the result is 1 goal in the last 200 minutes of play.
The Soccer Gods cursed our hamstrings
This post was edited on 7/3/14 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 7/3/14 at 2:14 pm to Billy Mays
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Bradley is a CDM at his core. He can be a CDM (or regular CM) if Landon, Jozy, and Dempsey are attacking. We didn't have that, and Bradley was forced provide a final ball time and time again in the penalty area, and the result is 1 goal in the last 200 minutes of play.
This. Bradley had to fill Dempsey's shoes as the "10" and that's something he's just not that good at. It's not a knock on Bradley because thats the most difficult role in the game. The US just didn't have anyone else capable of doing in on the roster.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 2:42 pm to Billy Mays
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The Soccer Gods cursed our hamstrings
I think that Ghana witch doctor fits in here somewhere...
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