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re: FFP - Man City and PSG Punishment

Posted on 5/6/14 at 11:35 am to
Posted by PTBob
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 11:35 am to
Since when is RVP young?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 11:37 am to
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how many regular starters did Man U start last year from their academy? not many. carrick mainly



Carrick isn't from their academy. He's a product of West Ham. The last couple of years Man U has only really produced Fletcher, Welbeck, Cleverly and Evans. That's more than most big teams.

I think the fines on top of overspending is silly. Like the financial board of UEFA says that PSG can spend 60 million euro on one player, but not 30 million on two etc. These teams should appeal.
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:09 pm to
he is pumping in money, *right now*. again, if he keels over tomorrow and his heirs DGAF about soccer (or any other number of possible scenarios in which the sugar daddy dries up) you better believe a lot of that shite will land on the club. rich people/corporations keep multiple books. in this current iteration, they are keeping the debts off of the club's books. in a heartbeat they could make the club eat (varying degrees, depending on the overall finances of dumping the club) of that shite.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
Manchester United Fan
Member since Sep 2011
24611 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:21 pm to
He's not, and that's his point.
Posted by PTBob
Member since Nov 2010
7072 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:33 pm to
but fellaini and mata are relatively young?

i has the confused.
Posted by PTBob
Member since Nov 2010
7072 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:36 pm to
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in a heartbeat they could make the club eat (varying degrees, depending on the overall finances of dumping the club) of that shite.


nothing would make me happier.
Posted by theOG
Member since Feb 2010
10517 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:42 pm to
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i has the confused


SCH was saying that ManU mostly buy young players before their value skyrockets. ManU's checkbook says otherwise.
Posted by PTBob
Member since Nov 2010
7072 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:44 pm to
gotcha, i'm still considering mata and fellaini RELATIVELY young. also, moyes.

sorry for this hiccup. carry on.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125487 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:52 pm to
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RVP


we didn't overpay for RVP

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Mata,


blame moyes

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Fellani


ughhhhh


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Great young players


2/3 are great players but keep trying
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125487 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:53 pm to
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The last couple of years Man U has only really produced Fletcher, Welbeck, Cleverly and Evans. That's more than most big teams.


It is, and we have some that should crack the first team soon.

Clevs is the only one that needs to go
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125487 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:54 pm to
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SCH was saying that ManU mostly buy young players before their value skyrockets


b/c we do

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ManU's checkbook says otherwise.



yes two bad buys by Moyes

but check our track record just the last few years

Young players

O look United is starting two new young players from the academy today.

This post was edited on 5/6/14 at 1:00 pm
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
9963 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:58 pm to
Well, you've spent a good bit over the years, though a big chunk is offset by the cr7 sale. You've paid premiums for young English players, some of which have panned out, others which haven't. Compared to other top, non-arsenal clubs, your net spend hasn't been as bad. Still, a good chunk of change spent.
Posted by theOG
Member since Feb 2010
10517 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:59 pm to
I never said you overpaid for him. all three of them are great players, two of them have had much better seasons though. I'm just pointing out three names contrary to your opinion that ManU go out and buy great young players before their value skyrockets.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125487 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 1:01 pm to
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I'm just pointing out three names contrary to your opinion that ManU go out and buy great young players before their value skyrockets.


I can point to a frick ton of players in the last few years that say otherwise.

The way we usually do thing is use academy players, buy young players from england or other parts of the world. The fill the rest in with a few big time buys.
Posted by PeepleHeppinBidness
Manchester United Fan
Member since Oct 2013
3553 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 1:03 pm to
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The last couple of years Man U has only really produced Fletcher, Welbeck, Cleverly and Evans. That's more than most big teams


Don't forget Januzaj and Rafael were both bought at the age of 16 and brought through as well.
Posted by theOG
Member since Feb 2010
10517 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 1:04 pm to
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O look United is starting two new young players from the academy today.


if city were playing for eighth or ninth Place I think you would probably see more than a couple Academy players in our lineup too.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125487 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 1:04 pm to
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You've paid premiums for young English players, some of which have panned out, others which haven't.


for sure but its not out of control spending. If two of them pan out and they get bought by a big club down the line it def works out.

United is not afraid to sell its players.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125487 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 1:05 pm to
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if city were playing for eighth or ninth Place I think you would probably see more than a couple Academy players in our lineup too.



o just stop

how many of your youth system players have cracked the XI all season. I know some played in the league cup and looked bad.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 1:07 pm to
Man U have paid above or at market value for most of their purchases. They aren't frugal by any means, nor are they particularly profligate, just like City and Chelsea.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125487 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 1:07 pm to
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Don't forget Januzaj and Rafael were both bought at the age of 16 and brought through as well.



Our U-21's are in the league final

and we still have guys like Henriquez who are young that might be ready for the big time. If Zaha is used right he will be money well spent.
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