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re: Cameron vs. Gonzo - who starts vs. Belgium
Posted on 6/28/14 at 1:08 pm to LSUButt
Posted on 6/28/14 at 1:08 pm to LSUButt
quote:
I desparately hope it's Cameron. Cameron made a few bad mistakes, but we need his speed and athleticism on the field.
Cameron's mishit was unfortunate as much as anything in that it landed at Nani's feet. Those kind of mishits happen in the box all the time - hell, Chile just did it about four times on one clearance in the first half.
Hanging the second goal on Cameron is horseshite.
The forward is ghosting in behind him, and there's two others to be aware of, since no one else is back. Someone (Johnson) has to let him know that the forward's coming, or has to go with him. Neither happened, apparently.
Beasley is where he needs to be. Omar is in la-la land. I guess he's shading toward Ronaldo, but he's so foot slow that he'd be worthless in space against Ronaldo. His big arse needs to be in the box. Bradley, Jones and Beckerman all appear to be marking the referee. And everyone's wonderboy, Yedlin, the "defender" with all the speed and fresh legs, who'd just come on 15 minutes prior? Furthest away from the play and spectating, instead of busting arse to help Johnson with the two guys right around him.
And lastly, WHAT THE frick are we doing with everybody sprinting back from the attacking end up a goal with 30 seconds left in the game? Stick Wondo's heels at the midfield stripe, put everybody else behind him and clear to the far end.
It's like they never thought they be in that situation and had no idea what to do.
All Cameron's fault my arse.
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 1:18 pm to cwil177
quote:
I never thought about this, but you're probably right.
In rec soccer, everyone plays 4-4-2 and waits for the midfield to disappear, and split into a 5 DEF and 5 FWD game - then attack the middle.
3-5-2 looks wildly foreign to opponents.
Especially if its:
----------GK----------
----------DEF---------
------DEF------DEF---
MID---MID-MID---MID
-----------MID---------
-----FWD------FWD---
It looks like there is someone everywhere all the time. As long as your two wide players don't drift too far in and your CMs and DEFs stay central, it's a real bitch to break down without losing too much attack. The only spot to attack is the corners behind the wide mids, and if people can fire in crosses and beat you in the air Brian McBride style in rec league - God bless 'em.
This post was edited on 6/28/14 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 6/28/14 at 1:25 pm to Sheep
quote:
Omar is in la-la land.
well duh
he is not good enough for this level
this isn't CONCACAF anymore
Posted on 6/28/14 at 1:26 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Cameron. Hes just better.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 2:04 pm to Sheep
quote:
All Cameron's fault my arse.
You and I are in 100% agreement on this. Maybe Cameron could have done a better job finding someone to mark, but where was the communication? Cameron was in a good position in the space he went to. It was just a perfect cross. People just want to find someone to blame. But blaming Cameron for that goal is wrong.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 3:27 pm to noonan
quote:
You and I are in 100% agreement on this. Maybe Cameron could have done a better job finding someone to mark, but where was the communication? Cameron was in a good position in the space he went to. It was just a perfect cross. People just want to find someone to blame. But blaming Cameron for that goal is wrong.
I agree. Our being so far up the field was the main issue, as it made Cameron (and the other defenders) have to retreat and face our goal. They are then unable to see any oncoming offensive players. That means they are 100% reliant upon communication. Maybe it happened, maybe it didn't, but GC certainly seemed surprised that he was there.
THere was ZERO reason for us to be so high up the pitch. And you could see Jurgen telling everyone to get back just before then. He knew it was risky.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 4:29 pm to DriveByBBQ
quote:
Funny how soccer's considered to be an "unpopular" (not big 3) sport then when new fans show up they're ridiculed and chastised for lack of knowledge. Lots of elitism on this board
Same people said Yedlin and Davis would never see the field. They were wrong. Klinsmann has showed he is willing to change things up. All I did was make a suggestion and it wasn't that far fetched.
In short, these people don't know as much as they think they do. I'm comfortable with that knowledge.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 10:38 pm to TxTiger82
I am going to pretend that Davis still never saw the field. I cannot believe he was called up. There is changing it up (Yedlin for pace) and being a fricking moron (starting Davis).
Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:53 pm to DriveByBBQ
quote:
Funny how soccer's considered to be an "unpopular" (not big 3) sport then when new fans show up they're ridiculed and chastised for lack of knowledge. Lots of elitism on this board...Soccer hipsters....
bad idea is bad idea in any sport bro.
no different than someone spouting tard ideas on the rant then being ridiculed for it.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 12:06 am to Tigerstark
Posted on 6/29/14 at 12:30 am to Alan Garner
quote:
no different than someone spouting tard ideas on the rant then being ridiculed for it.
Yeah, but we're all elitist hipsters if we do so here, because, well, people say so.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 12:39 am to StraightCashHomey21
quote:I'm a 'what have you for me lately' kind of a guy. I say start Green over Bradley too and watch Belgium lose their fricking minds trying to defend the prodigy.
good lord no
Posted on 6/29/14 at 12:49 am to Alan Garner
quote:
no different than someone spouting tard ideas on the rant then being ridiculed for it.
That's the issue though. We always touted ourselves as better than the Rant, than the OT, etc.
We're not. This board has turned into the same crap. 4 years ago we'd just explain how Besler coming in for Fab wouldn't work. Try to help the new people understand the game better. Now it's "LOL, her derp, you're retarded," etc.
I've been trying to avoid this board during the WC, not because of the nativity of the new posters, but because of the assholes the frequent posters have become.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 12:53 am to Tigerstark
We made it through one game of Gonzalez. He gave us a great effort. I don't want to pull that trigger again though.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 12:58 am to jeff5891
I like Green. I really do. Replacing Bradley with him is just wrong. Bradley is getting much too much flak. Also, Green does not play the same position, so how do you suggest altering the formation?
As for defending Green, Belgium lacks pace, so that helps him. However, they're physically imposing and would manhandle him. It would be like throwing Bambi into the lions did. Bambi might outrun them for a while, but he's getting mauled eventually.
As for defending Green, Belgium lacks pace, so that helps him. However, they're physically imposing and would manhandle him. It would be like throwing Bambi into the lions did. Bambi might outrun them for a while, but he's getting mauled eventually.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 1:17 am to DoreonthePlains
I wasn't at all serious
I think I would kill myself if I saw that happen
I think I would kill myself if I saw that happen
This post was edited on 6/29/14 at 1:18 am
Posted on 6/29/14 at 1:35 am to jeff5891
Whoops. Thought you were on the hype trains which are running opposite directions for Bradley and Green. Congrats on making me look stupid 
Posted on 6/29/14 at 1:56 am to BleedPurpleGold
quote:
I've been trying to avoid this board during the WC, not because of the nativity of the new posters, but because of the assholes the frequent posters have become.
i get what you are saying. it's just that no one on here should really expect to not be made fun of. i have no disillusions of what this place is and what these people are capable of.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 2:46 am to jeff5891
quote:
I'm a 'what have you for me lately' kind of a guy. I say start Green over Bradley too and watch Belgium lose their fricking minds trying to defend the prodigy.
what in the frick
this isn't fricking FIFA
they don't even play the same position
Posted on 6/29/14 at 2:47 am to hendersonshands
quote:
We made it through one game of Gonzalez. He gave us a great effort. I don't want to pull that trigger again though.
Nope he made some tackles but other than that he was avg at best out there
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