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re: Altidore....
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:20 pm to Evolve
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:20 pm to Evolve
quote:
You guys think Turkey is as good as the other teams in our bracket?
A full strength Turkey is a formidable opponent for any team. Their Euro 2008 run to the semi-finals was fricking amazing. They only had like 5 regular starters today.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:20 pm to Evolve
quote:
You guys think Turkey is as good as the other teams in our bracket?
How many teams in the world are as good as the Portugal and Germany? Very few.
I think they're on par with a Ghana team, especially with a terrible back line and an injury to a defender.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:20 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
It also makes the OP look dumber when you say Jozy is MOTM. That is enough reason for me to give it to Jozy over Fabian.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:21 pm to Dijkstra
Id have to disagree with you. I saw something very different today. Btw you don't have to try and insult someone to make your point. People disagree it's okay, it doesn't mean they are clueless.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:22 pm to Evolve
quote:
People disagree it's okay, it doesn't mean they are clueless.
well, i'm not one to make insults instead of arguments, but your OP does show that you are, in fact, clueless
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:25 pm to Evolve
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Id have to disagree with 99 percent of the board.
FIFY
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:26 pm to SwaggerCopter
quote:The most commonly used defense for poor strikers.
holds the ball well up top
ETA: Not saying Jozy's a poor striker, just saying that that's the most commonly used defense for one.
This post was edited on 6/1/14 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:27 pm to Dijkstra
quote:
'm not sure who is more clueless as to what they're watching. Altidore, outside of finishing, is doing what we need him to do.
Agreed. He was a bad call and about a foot shy of having several goals today. If he keeps it up, they will come.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:27 pm to Dijkstra
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I think they're on par with a Ghana team, especially with a terrible back line and an injury to a defender.
That defender probably was on the fringes anyway, from what I've read.
quote:
The most commonly used defense for poor strikers.
Alright guys, let's never compliment our target striker's hold up play again.
This post was edited on 6/1/14 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:28 pm to Patrick_Bateman
quote:
The most commonly used defense for poor strikers.
I mean, it's important for target strikers in the style of Altidore. They all can't be Messi.
This post was edited on 6/1/14 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:29 pm to Patrick_Bateman
quote:
The most commonly used defense for poor strikers.
Exactly
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:31 pm to dj30
I give up. You guys know more than an international manager:
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@BrianStraus: Terim says he was impressed by Altidore, Bradley and Johnson. On Jozy, "he's the type of striker that center backs don't like much."
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:33 pm to Joe Blow
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Agreed. He was a bad call and about a foot shy of having several goals today. If he keeps it up, they will come.
Or maybe he has zero confidence and zero finishing ability currently. There is a reason Jozy is being discussed on other message boards as being the worst striker in the epl. He does have talent but he is scared to shoot the ball currently.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:35 pm to dj30
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darryljames30
Sure, maybe he's low on confidence, but the ability is there. Jozy's going to play well for us at the WC, and we need him to. He's an asset for sure and to say otherwise is just laughable.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:36 pm to Patrick_Bateman
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The most commonly used defense for poor strikers.
If he wasn't good at it he wouldn't get complimented for it. No one says that kind of shite about Torres.
Altidore was on a tear a year ago then he went to Sunderland and played with those cellar dwellers and he's trying to get used to actually being able to play like a striker with quality guys around him.
He put himself in very dangerous positions today and yeah the finishing wasn't great but one goal can change all of that. I'm one of the biggest Jozy fans on here so obviously I'm gonna stick up for him but people are saying he's bad at things he's actually good at which is just stupid.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:40 pm to glassman
Glassman, this Turkish team is very young and the vets just don't play well together for some reason. They are certainly better than some CONCACAF teams heading to Brazil, but they are a far cry from the 2002 or 2008 squads.
It's hard as hell for me to figure out why. The individual talent is there for the most part.
Terim always sticks two absolutely insane line up decisions per game, too, although they are doing far better than under Avci.
It's hard as hell for me to figure out why. The individual talent is there for the most part.
Terim always sticks two absolutely insane line up decisions per game, too, although they are doing far better than under Avci.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:42 pm to dj30
quote:
Or maybe he has zero confidence and zero finishing ability currently. There is a reason Jozy is being discussed on other message boards as being the worst striker in the epl. He does have talent but he is scared to shoot the ball currently
He didn't look too scared to shoot, today. I think he made the right choices the time or two he crossed the ball instead of shooting. He had no angle on the goal and open guys in the middle of the box. No brainer IMHO. Things just didn't go his way today. It happens. I don't fault him for it this game. Like I said, if he keeps putting himself in the position to score like that, it will happen.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:42 pm to cwil177
He has talent and he has shown the talent before. We won't make it out of the group without him scoring. I just don't think he is horrible in his current form.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:44 pm to WarSlamEagle
I don't hate Altidore - but I can't get on board the "does everything well but finishing" ideal. I mean, if a striker's going to have one weakness in his game, finishing is the last area I would want the weakness to be in. Winning or losing a match, surviving or losing a group stage, can be the difference between taking or failing to take a single particular chance at goal. And I just don't have a lot of confidence in Altidore's ability to convert chances.
That said. . . Here's hoping he can start finding the net! I'll be happy to be wrong if he scores in the WC.
That said. . . Here's hoping he can start finding the net! I'll be happy to be wrong if he scores in the WC.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:46 pm to rdw1690
quote:Actually, they do. Torres is precisely the player I thought of when I read the "holds the ball well up top" comment.
No one says that kind of shite about Torres.
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