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re: A soccer board referendum on Jurgen as the US' coach
Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:32 am to Col Reb is my mascot
Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:32 am to Col Reb is my mascot
Our talent pool isn't nothing. We have talent, jurgy chose to bring some garbage players.
Could we have more talent? Yea we could but wondo should never sniff a national team call up. We have more talent than that.
Could we have more talent? Yea we could but wondo should never sniff a national team call up. We have more talent than that.
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Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:33 am to Col Reb is my mascot
This tournament was a money grab. There was nothing at stake. Sure, it's an international tournament but the same tournament (that usually happens every four years like the World Cup) happened just last year. There was no berth in the confederations cup at stake or anything of value really. CONMEBOL saw an opportunity to use the 100th anniversary of the Copa to hold the tournament, again, right after the last one, because with these corrupt federations the $$$$ is the bottom line. Why do you think it was held in the US? It's a South American tournament 
So we could have gotten players like Nagbe and Pulisic, especially, good experience in a competitive atmosphere with less pressure than a normal tournament like the World Cup. We missed that opportunity and we won't get it again.
So we could have gotten players like Nagbe and Pulisic, especially, good experience in a competitive atmosphere with less pressure than a normal tournament like the World Cup. We missed that opportunity and we won't get it again.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:34 am to heartbreakTiger
I'm not saying our talent pool is nothing. I'm saying that our talent pool isn't on a level to compete with Argentina, regardless of what formation we use to try to hid our inferior talent
Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:35 am to Col Reb is my mascot
quote:We have some good talent, he just refuses to call up/play some of it.
But I also think some of it has to do with a lack of talent in our player pool
quote:Only because he insisted on being the development director (or whatever that position is called) as well, so he now has 2 full time jobs.
which Jurgen is working to improve more than any of our other previous coaches
quote:Only because he left good options at home.
until injuries/suspensions came into play and he was left, in my opinion, without a true winning option.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:37 am to Col Reb is my mascot
quote:So that means we shouldn't even try?
I'm saying that our talent pool isn't on a level to compete with Argentina, regardless of what formation we use to try to hid our inferior talent
Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:37 am to Col Reb is my mascot
our pool might not be as deep but we should be ahead of where we are. The talent gap was massive, but we wasted a chance to get the young players experience. My main issue is going into a game that is no lose situation for us and we actually managed to lose. We didn't win the game, we looked horrible, we probably did some damage to our national brand, and we didn't really get our young guys a good taste of what it is like to play vs one of the best teams in the world.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:40 am to cwil177
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normal tournament like the World Cup. We missed that opportunity and we won't get it again.
That's basically the only tournament with more pressure that the US plays in (assuming we aren't counting world cup qualifiers). The Gold cup is a money grab and an attempt to start building excitement for the World Cup in a year. The Confederations Cup is a money grab for an attempt to play in the Gold Cup.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:40 am to pvilleguru
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Only because he left good options at home.
Who should have been added to our roster that would have made a real difference?
Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:41 am to Col Reb is my mascot
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I'm saying that our talent pool isn't on a level to compete with Argentina, regardless of what formation we use to try to hid our inferior talent
Question: how did we, with an even more inferior talent pool, compete with and beat a Spanish team that was ranked number one and hadn't lost in 35 games?
We know we don't have the same talent as Argentina. We didn't have the same talent level of Spain. But we still competed.
Under Jurgen we have played worse than we ever have before against the top teams and the bottom teams. We don't have a coherent game plan. We don't have clear tactics and organization. Those are things we had under previous coaches that made us competitive despite our lesser talent pool.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:43 am to Col Reb is my mascot
quote:Morris or Agudelo would have been a much better replacement for Wood than Wondo.
Who should have been added to our roster that would have made a real difference?
Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:44 am to Col Reb is my mascot
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The Gold cup is a money grab and an attempt to start building excitement for the World Cup in a year. The Confederations Cup is a money grab for an attempt to play in the Gold Cup.
Only because it's every two years instead of every four years.
You're missing the point though. "Meaningless" tournaments like this one and the confederations cup are great opportunities to get young players into the team and get them invaluable experience against top teams. We missed out on CC17 and we missed out on giving young players more experience during this tournament in favor of has beens.
This post was edited on 6/26/16 at 10:48 am
Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:46 am to Col Reb is my mascot
quote:The Confederations Cup is a test run for the World Cup the following year.
The Confederations Cup is a money grab for an attempt to play in the Gold Cup.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:46 am to Col Reb is my mascot
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Who should have been added to our roster that would have made a real difference?
Eric Lichaj, Jorge Villafaña, Alfredo Morales, Danny Williams, Benny Feilhaber, Sebastian Lletget, Jordan Morris, Sacha Kljestan, Dax McCarty
Want me to keep going?
Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:47 am to Col Reb is my mascot
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The Gold cup is a money grab and an attempt to start building excitement for the World Cup in a year.
Its a money grab bc its every two years
Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:47 am to cwil177
Hyndman.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:48 am to pvilleguru
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Hyndman
He barley plays for the first team at club level
no way you can say he would make a difference playing for the national team.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:51 am to StraightCashHomey21
quote:Even his manager says he fricked up by not playing him more. Just got bought by and EPL side. He could have helped more than Beckerman did.
He barley plays for the first team at club level
Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:52 am to pvilleguru
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Even his manager says he fricked up by not playing him more.
Which means he doesn't have match sharpness even playing in the Championship. His coach saying he fricked up by not playing does not mean he would make an impact at this level right now at his age.
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Just got bought by and EPL side.
No shite and we will see how he will do.
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He could have helped more than Beckerman did.
Two totally different players.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:57 am to cwil177
Ok so Morris for Wondo. And then who do the others replace? All the top teams in the tournament played their top players, it was a good chance to get our actual international starters some real experience. This isn't just some throw-away tournament where we play all young guys and don't care when we lose in the group stage
Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:59 am to StraightCashHomey21
quote:I agree, but I think Bradley would have been better in that DM role which makes Beckerman useless since Kitchen is already on the bench. That opens up space for another B2B/AM on the roster.
Two totally different players.
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