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You’re Being Spied On: Apple Confirms It Provides Governments with Push Notification Data

Posted on 12/7/23 at 10:47 am
Posted by WPBTiger
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Member since Nov 2011
30936 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 10:47 am
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Apple has recently admitted to secretly supplying governments around the world with data related to push notifications from its devices. The data provided goes beyond the display text of notifications that users see to backend directives to individual apps.

Ars Technica reports that tech giant Apple has come under scrutiny following its admission of secretly providing governments with push notification data from its devices. This revelation was brought to light by Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR), who has been investigating the issue. In a recent letter, Wyden demanded that the Department of Justice update policies that prohibit companies from informing the public of data requests from the government.


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Push notifications, often used for alerts about new messages, emails, social media comments, and news updates, are sent through servers run by the phone’s operating system provider, such as Apple or Google. This system ensures timely and efficient delivery of notifications, but also means that these companies can be compelled by governments to hand over this information.

The data provided to requesting governments by Apple includes metadata detailing which app received a notification and when, along with the phone and associated Apple account information. In some cases, the data shared may include unencrypted content, which could range from backend directives for the app to the actual text displayed to a user in a notification.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
11028 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 10:59 am to
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data shared may include unencrypted content, which could range from backend directives for the app to the actual text displayed to a user in a notification.


location, weather, payment confirmation, text messages etc are included in this, I assume
Posted by lsuguy84
CO
Member since Feb 2009
19648 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 11:01 am to
Is Android doing this as well?
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
9271 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 11:06 am to
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Is Android doing this as well?


Android is Google. You can draw your own conclusions from there but yes.

Also this bastard wants to keep the data mining secret!:
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In a recent letter, Wyden demanded that the Department of Justice update policies that prohibit companies from informing the public of data requests from the government.


ETA, it does appear I interpreted the quote incorrectly. The Democrat does appear to want to change this policy that allows the govt to covertly mine our data without notification from the provider.
This post was edited on 12/8/23 at 10:08 am
Posted by Larry_Hotdogs
Texas
Member since Jun 2019
1333 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 11:35 am to
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Also this bastard wants to keep the data mining secret!:


So much for being the heroes of the working class.
Posted by RealityWinsOut
Member since Oct 2023
1454 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 11:43 am to
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Also this bastard wants to keep the data mining secret!:
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In a recent letter, Wyden demanded that the Department of Justice update policies that prohibit companies from informing the public of data requests from the government.

I was a bit confused with this one cause he's investigating it and assuming let this news come out, so i read it as updating it allow the companies to inform people. Then he is a Democrat so could be wrong
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
24601 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 11:49 am to
Everyone knows your phone is a tracking device, will it stop us from buying them…no
Posted by Don Quixote
Member since May 2023
1582 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 12:11 pm to
not just tracking but listening as well
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32646 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 12:14 pm to
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Also this bastard wants to keep the data mining secret!:

quote: In a recent letter, Wyden demanded that the Department of Justice update policies that prohibit companies from informing the public of data requests from the government.


I don’t think this says what you think it says. Wyden for being a scumbag democrat has been on the side of liberty on a few things
Posted by tigerfan 64
in the LP
Member since Sep 2016
3768 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:39 pm to
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heroes of the statist class.
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2127 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:55 pm to
Alot of Apple fans boys going to be spinning this one hard...
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35292 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 3:00 pm to
I just operate assuming the government will see all activity on my phone at all times. Been like that for a long time.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72609 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 3:03 pm to
this is why always always have a flip phone as a backup or a sat phone. leave that smart phone at home. wink wink
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
3900 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 3:07 pm to
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In a recent letter, Wyden demanded that the Department of Justice update policies that prohibit companies from informing the public of data requests from the government.


This might be most concerning thing in the article.
Posted by SECROCKS!
Member since Jun 2013
528 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 6:56 pm to
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In a recent letter, Wyden demanded that the Department of Justice update policies that prohibit companies from informing the public of data requests from the government.


This might be most concerning thing in the article.


The current policy is no notification. He is demanding they update them to a policy to notify the people.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27328 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 7:06 pm to
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Is Android doing this as well?


Android is Google. You can draw your own conclusions from there but yes.

Also this bastard wants to keep the data mining secret!:
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Soooo, if Elon decided to get serious about making a competitive mobile device would you be willing to part ways with your iphone or android?
Posted by rattlebucket
SELA
Member since Feb 2009
11437 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 7:15 pm to
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location, weather, payment confirmation, text messages etc are included in this, I assume


Trump likes and retweets too. Yay for “we the people”
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68287 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 7:56 pm to
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not just tracking but listening as well




AT&T has admitted that they have millions of hours of recorded phone calls going back decades
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45724 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:52 pm to
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Also this bastard wants to keep the data mining secret!:
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In a recent letter, Wyden demanded that the Department of Justice update policies that prohibit companies from informing the public of data requests from the government.
Allow me to help you, because I read it as:

In a recent letter, Wyden demanded that the Department of Justice update policies (that prohibit companies from informing the public of data requests from the government).

I read it as the current policies include this prohibition, and he wants the policies changed to allow the public to know when their government is requesting the public's push notification data.
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
10614 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 11:03 pm to
Who is James Yoo?
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 11:04 pm
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