re: Your federal hiring freeze at work

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This is an opportunity for liberals to step up and create a charity to fund child care services for our military folks.

Do it. I'll donate.

I think you are just being bitchy though. You actually don't care enough to take any action save for bitching on a website.

If I'm wrong, send me the donate link.

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So if your political enemies do something first, you'll donate, but if they don't you're gonna point the finger at the lack of charity? What a waste of space you must be.

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So if your political enemies do something first

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Enemies? And you want to talk about wasted space? LOL

I'll help support the charity he starts. I can appreciate action over words. However, just like you, I don't believe he cares enough to actually take action. He would rather wait on mommy government to act on his behalf but still hold onto the higher moral ground.

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the solution will be reimbursement for on the economy day care.

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Unfortunately you are correct.

I'm sure the public will be convince by the government that it is a good thing though.

While I think defense spending cuts should be down the list like I said earlier....I don't think anyone here will, or should, debate the fact that our military spending and efficiency is out of control in numerous areas.

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What private sector job would you compare it to? There is not a private sector job that you can't quit to begin with...most folks in the military can't just say "frick it, I quit" and walk away from their job without any notice....that is illegal for most military people. Also very few private sector jobs where you are on call 24 hours a day 7 days a week until your employer hands you a piece of paper saying you aren't on call 24-7. Finally very few private sector jobs where your employer expects you to sacrifice your life to get your job done. Military folks aren't supposed to die on the job but when they do it is understood that it is part of the job. Yes, military people have some serious perks....but none that the military doesn't measure very well against rentention and recruitment...they aren't just slinging shite at soldiers to get them in and keep them in....

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So the last I checked the last time a draft was instituted was a long time ago. These people know what they are getting into...they also know what they can do in the private sector.

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So the last I checked the last time a draft was instituted was a long time ago. These people know what they are getting into...they also know what they can do in the private sector.

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I agree 100%...but what they were getting into this time last year was a military which would provide some day care services for their children when they were overseas. Going forward it may become much more difficult to recruit as high a caliber folks if there sren't those kinds of perks.

This is something that makes no sense about Trump's campaign promises....you can't make the military stronger by both cutting spending on people and increasing spending on programs and systems...because people HAVE to be involved in those programs and systems....if, for example, we are going to upgrade our nuclear arsenal we are either going to have to hire civilians, civilian contractor personnel or more military people....it ain't going to happen without people and money.

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If you can't afford kids, DON'T frickING HAVE THEM!

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Calm down little buddy. 99% of the world can't truly afford kids. We all do our best to survive.

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I hear this all the time from the right but if we took this advice...and it is sound advice...very few of us would be here LOL....my parents couldn't afford my sisters and myself and my wife and I can't afford the 2 we have and our household income is in the top 6 or so % in the nation.....kids are EXPENSIVE....

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Correct. My wife and I make over 125k a year and struggle financially with our 2 kids. Now, we aren't eating ramen noodles or dog food but I laugh when I here dumbasses say "If you can't afford em, don't have em". Get a clue. Kids are expensive as shite. Most of us pay more in taxes on formula and diapers in 1 year than these little shite sippers not having kids spouting this nonsense do in 10 years.

Can we go ahead and start shutting down Wiesbaden base completely?

No more day care issue and we can use the personnel elsewhere.

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Most of us pay more in taxes on formula and diapers in 1 year

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Still your problem, not mine.

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Correct. My wife and I make over 125k a year and struggle financially with our 2 kids. Now, we aren't eating ramen noodles or dog food but I laugh when I here dumbasses say "If you can't afford em, don't have em". Get a clue. Kids are expensive as shite. Most of us pay more in taxes on formula and diapers in 1 year than these little shite sippers not having kids spouting this nonsense do in 10 years.

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This is the way of the United States...it is the largest part of the American dream...having a family even though it means struggling and sacrificing. And what do we get for our trouble? About 8 and maybe 10 years of undying love and devotion and then the little shits move out and won't even answer the damn phone when you call to see about the grandkids....unless they need something LOL.

It is good advice to wait until you can afford kids the problem is that most people are no longer fertile or even sexually active by the time they have enough job experience to be earning enough to "afford" a kid...the species would cease to exist if we relied on rationale and logic to have kids because it is irrational and illogical to the point of absurdity to do so...


This is one are where we differ from other animals. In times of food shortages and drought most animals will not breed as readily as they will in time of plenty...and most daddy's outside of humans will devour their kids under ideal circumstances....let there be a lack of food and water and all of a sudden the baby is the quickest solution to the first item on that list! Our higher brains do not allow for this, thank God, and so we are faced with having to raise the little buggers no matter how bad times get....and to do so for at least 6 or so years because even under the most horrific of circumstances baby humans are not able to survive on their own before they are 6 or so or at least old enough to work the fricking remote control on their own!