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Posted on 8/5/17 at 9:28 pm
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 8/5/17 at 9:28 pm
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“My parents have always told (us) opportunities are anywhere. They brought us to this country because it was supposedly the land of opportunity,” said Estrada, 26, of Los Angeles. “But if we find opportunity in another place, our country is wherever our feet take us,” she said. Estrada, a participant in President Barack Obama’s Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, which provides deportation relief and work permits to immigrants who were brought here as children, is one of many young immigrants who are contemplating leaving the country. They are worried about their future here as President Donald Trump’s administration ramps up deportation efforts and has recently proposed limiting legal immigration.


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Because of this uncertainty, DACA beneficiaries are thinking about leaving the U.S. They fear that if they remain, they could lose their permission to work or end up at risk of deportation. Alma Cruz, a DACA recipient who works as an outreach coordinator for United Way, has a backup plan. Cruz, a Mexican native, is looking to move there, buy land, and go into the real estate business.


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It may have been a farfetched idea at first, but a trip to Mexico convinced Cruz that moving back to her native country wasn’t such a bad idea[...]“Being in Mexico, I kinda … want to move back,” she wrote. “Ya sabemos inglés (We already know English), let’s move forward. Anyone feel the same?” she wrote.

Nearly 100 comments followed.

“If DACA goes away we must continue to dream big in our home countries or other countries,” one person wrote.

“I’ve been thinking about it more and more. I am well educated and talented but I feel like I’ve just hit a wall with what I can do with my life here,” another said.


Bon voyage!

I hear Europe and Canada LOVE economic migrants.
Posted by Wildcat In Germany
Metro Atlanta
Member since May 2017
3094 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 9:33 pm to
This isn't a good thing. DACA kids are, for the most part, pursuing a higher education. They all speak English. They can't have a criminal history. They're not on welfare. They're the type of immigrants that we want.

They were brought here as minor children and had no say in the matter. This is, generally, the only country that they know.

This post was edited on 8/5/17 at 9:34 pm
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62441 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 9:35 pm to
Now this is winning, but only if it happens...
Posted by saintsman40
Member since Nov 2015
1372 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 9:35 pm to
WELL, BYE........
This post was edited on 8/5/17 at 9:36 pm
Posted by Laryngitis
SouthLA
Member since May 2010
362 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 9:35 pm to
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15311 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 9:37 pm to
Just look at how close Dearborn (Detroit) MI is to Canada.

Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27334 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 9:39 pm to
Hasta la vista mf'er!
Posted by WhopperDawg
Member since Aug 2013
3073 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 9:41 pm to
Good. See ya.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 9:56 pm to
Bye Bye Now. Take Care.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27969 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 10:00 pm to
Aloha Amigo.
Posted by Squedunk
Around Dumb People
Member since Jun 2008
673 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 10:08 pm to
How's the opportunities in Mexico?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123927 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 10:23 pm to
quote:

This isn't a good thing. DACA kids are, for the most part, pursuing a higher education. They all speak English. They can't have a criminal history. They're not on welfare. They're the type of immigrants that we want.
There is a process for citizenship. If all criterion are as you describe, there is a process for these individuals.

That process does not involve skipping line. It does not involve circumventing rules. It does not involve expectations of special treatment. It involves process and law.

I am empathetic to challenges DACA's face. One of the reasons US immigration has been historically successful is past immigrants identified and met requisite challenges. They had the right stuff, the fortitude to overcome obstacles, the ingeniousness to navigate the path. They did not look for exceptions, they abided the rules.

DACAs can do that too.
Posted by ihometiger
Member since Dec 2013
12475 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 10:43 pm to
The more of these people who leave their home country the more their home country goes south.
Posted by Wildcat In Germany
Metro Atlanta
Member since May 2017
3094 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 10:44 pm to
You cannot apply for citizenship if you're in the country illegally, even if you had no choice in the matter. They're caught in the middle of a rock and a hard place.

For those who were brought here as infants or toddlers, this is the only country that they've ever known and it's not their fault that they're here. DACA rules have very clear regulations that they must abide by.

I hate the idea of keeping people here who intentionally violated the law and I think that they deserve no protection. DACA kids are a coompletely different issue though.
This post was edited on 8/5/17 at 10:46 pm
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
9820 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 10:45 pm to
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DACAs can do that too.


I work with a DACA who is 25 years old. She didn't even know she wasn't a citizen until she went to get her drivers license.

She was brought here as a baby and left with relatives from a middle eastern country. She is as American as can be from a cultural point of view.

The only path to citizenship for her is to get married or go back to her country of origin and wait out the process.

If DACA goes away, she will be forced to go to a country she has never known, doesn't speak the language, and has no one. I hope this doesn't happen for her sake.
Posted by Wildcat In Germany
Metro Atlanta
Member since May 2017
3094 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 10:48 pm to
These people couldn't care less. It's really sad. Most of the claim to be devout Christians too.
Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
9406 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 10:54 pm to


How in the hell did Wisconsin get screwed out of the Upper Peninsula? It is not even connected to Michigan.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 10:56 pm to
If she is hot you could solve that issue for her right away.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
9820 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 10:57 pm to
quote:

If she is hot you could solve that issue for her right away.


I would if I wasn't already married. She's pretty attractive and very smart.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 11:01 pm to
Maybe we could make a deal that only attractive DACAs can stay.

IMO this is a case by case issue. If they are truly assimilated and being productive then letting them stay is a benefit to all. However, the size of the issue makes case by case extremely hard.

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