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re: You people that want to blame Israel read this

Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:40 pm to
Posted by cave canem
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:40 pm to
Nope, just way more informed and knowledgeable than you on this topic. Pick another and I may learn something from you.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:43 pm to
We have a bulldog in that region if necessary. Given the right intelligence report they could be turned loose on Iran tomorrow. Strategically speaking they are invaluable. I hope I spelled that right don't have spellcheck.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:47 pm to
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Nope, just way more informed and knowledgeable than you on this topic. Pick another and I may learn something from you.

No, you're not. You're parroting talking points from someone else. Comparing a rocket loaded with TNT to a Roman candle isn't a serious comparison. And anyone who makes that comparison should be ridiculed and laughed at.

I ridicule you and laugh at you.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:50 pm to
Tell me the capabilities of the main rocket Hamas uses.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:52 pm to
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I ridicule you and laugh at you.




I too ridicule and laugh at him
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:52 pm to
Ben the days of Israel taking on all commers in that region is over. Without US assistance Israel would fall within weeks of a pan-Arab attack, the other countries are equipped and trained to much more comparative standards today than in the 60's and 70's.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:52 pm to
He probably believes in unicorn farts, too.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:54 pm to
Well except that little tactical nuke capability.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:56 pm to
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We have a bulldog in that region if necessary. Given the right intelligence report they could be turned loose on Iran tomorrow. Strategically speaking they are invaluable. I hope I spelled that right don't have spellcheck.


Why do we have a problem with Iran - Israel. Why do we need a "bulldog" in the region - Israel. Why are we reviled in the region - Israel. They can't fight with us, we can't base operations there - they are a millstone about our necks. Any strategic benefit they provide is directly related to their protection. They're a liability, not a benefit.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:58 pm to
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I too ridicule and laugh at him







I also ridicule and laugh at him, not sure why but if it is good enough for you guys it's good enough for me.
This post was edited on 7/26/14 at 9:59 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:58 pm to
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Why do we have a problem with Iran - Israel.


Is it your contention that Islamists would not take up arms against the US if it wasn't for Israel?
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:59 pm to
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Tell me the capabilities of the main rocket Hamas uses.
Still waiting.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:00 pm to
Give him time. He has to become an expert in a few short minutes.
Posted by bencoleman
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:03 pm to
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Why are we reviled in the region - Israel.





Are you seriously blaming our support of israel for our problems with muslim countries? Dude you got it bad. They don't need Israel to hate us and they wouldn't hate us any less if we cut Israel loose. You are letting emotion cloud reason.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:07 pm to
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Give him time. He has to become an expert in a few short minutes.
Google is a bitch. I mean hell he is a resident expert can't understand why he couldn't just reply.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:09 pm to
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Is it your contention that Islamists would not take up arms against the US if it wasn't for Israel?


Impossible to state with any certainty, but without the worst foreign policy decision of the 20th century in 1947 I would suggest that modern jihadism would be much more muted and would more likely involve an internal struggle.

But in relation to Iran specifically the fear of a nuclear Iran is always related to the existence of Israel....not our existence.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:10 pm to
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Are you seriously blaming our support of israel for our problems with muslim countries? Dude you got it bad. They don't need Israel to hate us and they wouldn't hate us any less if we cut Israel loose. You are letting emotion cloud reason.


I think your misplaced affinity for an Israel has clouded your reason. They provide no benefits to this country.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:12 pm to
Gefilte Fish is pretty awesome brah.
Posted by bencoleman
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:16 pm to
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I think your misplaced affinity for an Israel has clouded your reason. They provide no benefits to this country





Right. Well I always did like gefilte fish.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:18 pm to
I had been lead to believe I would learn about the main rocket Hamas uses in this thread. It appears I was misinformed.
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