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You Are Now Paying Internet Companies to Sell Your Browsing History to Advertisers
Posted on 4/9/17 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 4/9/17 at 10:28 pm
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On April 3, Donald Trump signed a repeal of FCC privacy rules passed under Obama, following the previous week’s party-line votes in the House and Senate.
Trump’s new head of the FCC, Ajit Pai, is the telecom industry’s knight in shining armor. Over the past few weeks, as Congress prepared to repeal, he has advanced a truly peculiar argument in the repeal camp’s favor. Currently, “edge providers” that offer a particular Internet-based service, like Facebook or Google, are governed by the Federal Trade Commission’s guidelines, which allow them to sell information about what you do on their sites. But ISPs, because they form the backbone of the Internet, are regulated as public utilities by the FCC, just like phone service is, and the FCC mandates tighter privacy protections. Pai argues that the repeal is simply making data exploitation “fair.” Or, in his own words, overturning “privacy regulations designed to benefit one group of favored companies over another group of disfavored companies.” Poor AT&T.
Privacy advocates note that while you might be able to avoid Facebook or even Google to protect your privacy, it’s awfully hard to avoid one of the major telecom providers in a nearly monopolized field. You have to deal with them if you want to be part of the modern world. And they have quite a holistic view of what you’re doing on the Internet. Facebook might know that you’re a Jewish mother of three who went on the Women’s March and likes J.Crew. Your ISP also knows that you researched freezing your eggs on medical websites, you regularly visit HighTimes.com, and that someone on your computer habitually watches pornography in private-browser mode. All this, Republicans feel, should be available for mining and selling by your ISP.
One of the most dangerous potential effects of the repeal is what Astra Taylor and Jathan Sadowski have, in these pages, called “digital redlining.” Digital redlining is when companies draw on your online information (for example, that you went to a for-profit college and come from an impoverished town) and use it to sell you harmful products, like payday loans or scam debt relief. With the quantity of information available to ISPs, this will only get worse.
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Posted on 4/9/17 at 10:32 pm to Bench McElroy
I dunno if this is part of it or not but I honesty have been getting so many solicitors calling me each day right now. Like 3 or so a day. Maybe coincidence but it sucks.
Posted on 4/9/17 at 10:33 pm to Bench McElroy
You do realize Google and Facebook have been doing this to you for years?
Posted on 4/9/17 at 10:36 pm to Bench McElroy
It's easy to hide from Google, facebook, etc but not so much for ISP.
Posted on 4/9/17 at 10:37 pm to GetBackToWork
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This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 7:12 pm
Posted on 4/9/17 at 10:38 pm to Bench McElroy
A person's privacy should be of no benefit to anyone other than themselves without written permission. If we had any real representation in gvt and not lobbyist dong suckers, this is the way the world would work.
The high tech world of marketing and social media will eventually be the ruin of mankind.
The high tech world of marketing and social media will eventually be the ruin of mankind.
Posted on 4/9/17 at 10:38 pm to Bench McElroy
Hasn't this been happening all along? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do not think these new FCC privacy rules had even gone into effect yet. Yes, Trump repealed it, but it's not like anything is going to change from what had already been happening.
Posted on 4/9/17 at 10:40 pm to Bench McElroy
No one is forcing you to use them.
Posted on 4/9/17 at 10:40 pm to The Baker
My point is that all the balleyhoo over privacy is overblown. People act like privacy was lost this week. FB can access everything about you, and already has.
Posted on 4/9/17 at 10:40 pm to Vrai
that is correct and not really doing what they claimed
Posted on 4/9/17 at 10:42 pm to GetBackToWork
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You do realize Google and Facebook have been doing this to you for years?
And before you had the option to opt by cancelling your account.
Good luck cancelling your ISP.
Posted on 4/9/17 at 10:49 pm to larry289
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A person's privacy should be of no benefit to anyone other than themselves without written permission. If we had any real representation in gvt and not lobbyist dong suckers, this is the way the world would work.
The high tech world of marketing and social media will eventually be the ruin of mankind.
We almost did, at least when it comes to ISP's, Republicans and Trump decided to stop it.
I know it is sacrosanct around here to only speak ill of our former president, but this was something Obama got mostly right given there was zero chance of passing actual legislation or getting Republicans to be cooperative on the issue because of politics, and, well, what we just saw.
....Cue the swarm of triggered posters descending down on this thread to attack him and my statement.
This post was edited on 4/9/17 at 10:53 pm
Posted on 4/9/17 at 10:54 pm to bonhoeffer45
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....Cue the swarm of triggered posters descending down on this thread to attack him and my statement.
I'm certainly not up to speed of all the nuances, but what you just said is my current understanding of the situation. It was passed under a "ruse" of fairness by the Repubs...shame on the pricks!
Signed,
An independent conservative who supports Trump in generalities and is 100% anti DNC/leftist/libers.
Posted on 4/9/17 at 10:58 pm to imjustafatkid
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No one is forcing you to use them.
It is difficult verging on impossible to get along in the modern world without internet access. Unless you want to spend a lot of time in libraries and coffee shops, that neans having an ISP
Posted on 4/9/17 at 11:06 pm to Jim Rockford
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It is difficult verging on impossible to get along in the modern world without internet access. Unless you want to spend a lot of time in libraries and coffee shops, that neans having an ISP
Which is the reason the ISP's, et.al., should not be allowed to do this.
Posted on 4/9/17 at 11:35 pm to Bench McElroy
Where was this outrage when the UPS sold your home address to bulk mailers, political parties, local retailers, charity organizations, and Nigerian princes?
Posted on 4/9/17 at 11:39 pm to Bench McElroy
Speaking of ads, how long has TD had the ads within posts?
I only noticed it recently, I forget the poster's name but he shows up in almost every thread advertising something.
It may only show up of you are not logged in.
I only noticed it recently, I forget the poster's name but he shows up in almost every thread advertising something.
It may only show up of you are not logged in.
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