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re: Yale to remove carving with gun pointed at Native American

Posted on 8/22/17 at 1:58 pm to
Posted by Lima Whiskey
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 1:58 pm to
King Philips War.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

depicts a Puritan settler, right, pointing a musket at the head of a Native American
The puritan has really bad aim
Posted by Lima Whiskey
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 1:59 pm to
I really think this censorship is rooted in Puritan culture. I think it explains the modern left in general. They are secular Puritans.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 2:03 pm to
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I really think this censorship is rooted in Puritan culture. I think it explains the modern left in general. They are secular Puritans.


There is a TON of material about this online. Very interesting stuff. They're morphing into this strict pious lifestyle where "progressivism" is their god. Many of their biggest activists are almost monk-like in their pursuit.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 2:06 pm to
It's a testament to the enduring power of culture. How peoples don't really change.

I think it's also one of the most unfortunate legacies of the civil war. Puritan New England became the cultural wellspring of the country, thanks to the victory, their wealth, their media, and their universities.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 2:17 pm to
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Are they going to pretend that their Puritan ancestors didn't fight a savage war of annihilation against the Indians?
They just don't want art honoring it
Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 2:18 pm to
It's about time. As a decedent of the early European settlers of this great country, I'm offended by such depictions that lead the viewer to think that the "natives" were innocent victims of the white man. There's a reason why they were called "savages".
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 2:23 pm to
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They just don't want art honoring it

Seems like if they were "honoring it", they wouldn't have such a defeated/scared facial expression on the indian while the Puritan is scowling. Perhaps the message is showing the "evils" our first settlers were involved with.
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 2:26 pm to
where is the cuckeye jackass that said the statues garbage wouldn't try to revise history?

will some imbecile sleep better tonight because a useless piece of cement is destroyed? Indoctrinated fools.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 2:57 pm to
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Seems like if they were "honoring it", they wouldn't have such a defeated/scared facial expression on the indian while the Puritan is scowling. Perhaps the message is showing the "evils" our first settlers were involved with.

Yeah, people are just keen on letting take their land. If I came to your house uninvited and set up shop how would that go?
Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 3:03 pm to
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Yeah, people are just keen on letting take their land. If I came to your house uninvited and set up shop how would that go?
A lot of the Indian tribes were nomadic and migrated from settlement to settlement. Also, they didn't have much of a concept of land ownership as they thought the earth did not belong to the people.

On top of that, many viewed the mere presence of the white people as a threat, even the ones who were settled peacefully. There were many raids on white settlements by the Indians where many people were massacred. Perhaps we need more of those types of monuments to remember our ancestors who lost their lives to red aggression.
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 3:27 pm
Posted by Dale51
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 3:08 pm to
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Yeah, people are just keen on letting take their land.

It wasn't their land.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 3:09 pm to
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 3:11 pm to
Seems historically accurate to me.
Posted by Dale51
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 3:12 pm to
That^. The popular concept of the "Nobel Savage" is a bunch of Rousseauian bullshite.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 3:22 pm to
Looks to me like the settler feared for his life. Clear case of self defense.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 3:29 pm to
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Are they going to pretend that their Puritan ancestors didn't fight a savage war of annihilation against the Indians?


Well, when you're fighting against savages it's gonna be a savage war.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 3:30 pm to
Really?

Because the settler looks evil as frick anyway.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 3:31 pm to
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Yeah, people are just keen on letting take their land. If I came to your house uninvited and set up shop how would that go?

Ok, so you didn't even read my response. Gotcha.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 3:33 pm to
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Because the settler looks evil as frick anyway.


I just examined the pic again. The Indian and the settler look eerily similar in their facial structure. Maybe that's the only face the stone cutter could do.
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