re: Woman who runs Steelers' merchandise store shares account of what she's been dealing with

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The stunt the NFL pulled last weekend may go down as one of the biggest business PR blunders of all time IMO.

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They need to start a new team - call em the "Edsels"

I thought it was reported that Alejandro Villanueva's jersey was selling like crazy. Your report indicates otherwise.

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Moving the goalposts isn't useful.

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How did I move the goalposts?

my original post
"Sure, I'll agree that there are appropriate and inappropriate ways to go about this. But we're talking about a store in Lancaster, PA that is much closer to Philadelphia than it is Pittsburgh. It is a town of 60k people. I have no direct knowledge but it may very well be the only Steelers shop in the town."

If you interpreted that to mean any store that sells Steelers merchandise, then i'm sorry you interpreted it that way. By me referring it to a Steelers shop, I intepret that to mean it's a Steelers specific shop, not a store that may sell Steelers apparel (along with apparel from other teams), somewhere like Dick's. For instance, if someone asked me if there is an LSU shop in Nashville, TN, I wouldn't say, "yeah, Wal-Mart" because they might have stack of LSU t-shirts. And I wouldn't think that's what they meant by the question either.

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From the reactions we've seen, not nearly enough apparently. People would rather go bitch at this woman than take time to write to the organization.

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Or maybe they have, but no one from the Steelers organization will address their concerns, which was my point. When business owners that are licensed merchants for the Steelers are suffering, then that ultimately affects the Steelers bottom line, as they have a business interest in those businesses' success. When those businesses start complaining to the Steelers about their actions affecting the businesses' bottom line, you can rest assured they will address those issues to protect their own bottom line.

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I avoided your deflection, sure. Positive comments don't negate anything I've said.

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It's not a deflection. It's just an explanation on what the situation is. When the shop owner presents the impression that she has been receiving an array of derogatory posts but fails to mention that the vast majority are very polite and don't fault the owner, then she is not providing a full picture of what is actually happening. This is how benign stories turn out bigger than they actually are in the media because certain important facts are omitted in an attempt to push a certain narrative. In fact, most of the posts are geared towards asking if they sell other Pittsburgh pro teams' gear so they can continue to give her business but just not the Steelers.

I think you fail to grasp that most people there are middle class, blue collar workers and don't have the ability to have their concerns heard and addressed by the Steelers front office. What they do have control over is having their concerns noticed by their refusing to support the Steelers by way of not spending money at local businesses on Steelers apparel. It's easier for them to write a facebook post or make a direct call to a business owner that is responsive than for them to write a letter to the Steelers front office that will ultimately fall on deaf ears more times than not.

It sounds like you have a problem with them utilizing a platform that is available to them. Like I said, if enough vendors experience the same backlash as this business owner, then that will get the Steelers attention. A few people from Lancaster, PA writing a mean letter to the front office will likely get them a form letter response and nothing would come from it.

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By me referring it to a Steelers shop, I intepret that to mean it's a Steelers specific shop, not a store that may sell Steelers apparel (along with apparel from other teams), somewhere like Dick's.

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It isn't a Steelers shop.

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Or maybe they have

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Yeah, maybe. Maybe they haven't.

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It sounds like you have a problem with them utilizing a platform that is available to them.

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I don't have a problem with any of it. I'm just pointing things out, and some of the less solid posters here don't like it.

I think that addresses the important points...

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Yep. Republicans boycott and make angry posts or phone calls.

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That's cool. You keep making angry phone calls and I'll enjoy watching the games.

Sucks you're not allowed to watch anymore.

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I think that addresses the important points...

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There's no need to be a smart arse when I'm attempting to have a civil conversation with you.

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I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion, but cool.

Feel free to end the conversation at any point if you don't like what I have to say.

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I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion, but cool.

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ok. I had a post that addressed quite a few points, and your responded to three of the smaller points and said you thought that addressed the important points, implying the rest of my fairly lengthy response was pointless. And then you added an ellipsis as a sign of sarcasm. So yes, that was you being a smartass and presented an aura of arrogance.

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Feel free to end the conversation at any point if you don't like what I have to say.

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That's the thing. You have made an affirmation that these people are pathetic. You haven't provided an explanation of why you feel this way or even so much as attempted to try to understand why they may have done what they did. You have basically just cast them off as idiots. Again, by your total dismissal of any opinion other than your own, you are perpetuating the bigger problem we have on a multitude of different issues facing society today. I thought that was the underlying issue in the black lives matter movement to begin with, no? The left says they want this to spark conversation and understanding. Well, if one side of an issue doesn't even attempt to participate in civil discourse, then how in the world do you even expect there to be any progress made?

Acting like an arrogant a-hole is not conducive to progress. Calling people pathetic without even trying to understand why they do the things they do isn't conducive to progress either.

You do you. But if you refuse to actually participate in an actual discussion, provide context for why you hold the opinions you do, and to actually listen and address counter-points to your, albeit minimal, arguments, then maybe you need to look in the mirror when you voice your displeasure at the actions of others.

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I'm a busy person, and most of the time I post from my phone. That was me addressing the relevant points. I don't have time to write you a dissertation that satisfies what you think I should address, and I don't care if you like it.

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You're a busy person, yet you respond to every post in a matter of minutes. And no, you did not address any of the relevant points, but whatever.

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No. I stated that they are pathetic, and they are. I've explained why. Again, I don't care if you agree with it. Whining about the way I decide to reply to you won't change that, either.

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Your explanation was quoting an couple of sentences from an article (twice). So no, you did not explain why you think they are pathetic. You quoted what the patrons allegedly did based on the article in the OP. You didn't go to their facebook page to see what they actually posted, although I spoon-fed that information to you, to which you failed to even respond.

This is the point you seem to want to ignore for whatever reason. You don't try to understand why people do the things they do, you just assess judgment on them with little to no context. Sound familiar?

Both this and the plummeting ratings were predicted here...many times. We were told that we were FOS.

Well I guess we weren't the ones that were FOS.

See, this is what they still don't get. The election wasn't a fluke and a huge majority of Americans don't agree with their crazy as shite opinions.

But they'll be shown again in a year or so.

Upvote.