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re: Why should we care what a politicians stance on Marijuana is
Posted on 11/18/16 at 4:10 pm to beaverfever
Posted on 11/18/16 at 4:10 pm to beaverfever
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I've spent most of my life in a dry county (now wet) and it never bothered me because the citizens could put it up to a vote any time they wanted. I never thought that was anti-freedom.
That is just it though. You can put marijuana up to a vote in your state, but the feds can still prosecute you for it. Therein lies the problem.
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Posted on 11/18/16 at 4:15 pm to slackster
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You can put marijuana up to a vote in your state, but the feds can still prosecute you for it. Therein lies the problem.
Add onto it that the federal status means most banks won't give financing. So even if the state is welcoming to the industry, they lack access to capital that almost every other industry has access to.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 4:16 pm to Jake88
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Why then is Colorado facing a $300,000,000 budget deficit this year?
Cant say for sure but i would take a look at increased cost of k-12 per pupil spending and medicade issues. Without revenue from legalization that number would be even higher.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 4:19 pm to parrothead
Throw in dropping oil revenue and slightly slower growth and you're on the right track.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 4:20 pm to BamaCoaster
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"The legalization of marijuana is a litmus test for having a brain"-Gary Johnson
"What is Aleppo?"- Gary Johnson
Posted on 11/18/16 at 4:29 pm to slackster
To hear some speak of it, it was going to be the cure for budget woes. I suspect that it doesn't make as significant as great an impact as even the moderate estimates. The judges, district attorneys, indigent defenders, clerical staff, police and other employees of a municipality get paid regardless. Whether it's a marijuana case before them, an assault case before them or an opening on the docket, they get paid the same.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 4:36 pm to Jake88
It isn't a budget panacea, but any increased revenue (that isn't more mandatory taxes) is a win right?
This post was edited on 11/18/16 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 11/18/16 at 4:37 pm to goldennugget
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If a politicians stance on weed affects you in any way you need to re-evaluate your life
I support legal weed but honestly it's very low on the totem poll of political priorities for me
The war on drugs is one of the biggest issues ever and is directly tied to the immigration crisis and legalizing weed and decriminalizing other drugs will kneecap the cartels in Mexico.
How the frick do you not see this?
Oh and if you support the government taking your property away without due process, you are not a small government conservative.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 4:39 pm to Sentrius
But the government would only ever use its police powers against real bad people thus we don't need due process and other protections. /s
The big government trumpsterd are out in force over Sessions.
The big government trumpsterd are out in force over Sessions.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 4:42 pm to CorporateTiger
A person has only so much disposable income. $100 in marijuana taxes is equivalent to how much in other leisure time pursuits that are passed over in favor of MJ?
Posted on 11/18/16 at 4:44 pm to Jake88
In terms of what? Ultimately the government needs some revenue; I would rather see as much of it as possible come from taxes that a person can choose to pay or avoid as possible.
Thus a "sin tax" on marijuana is better than a regular sales tax which is better than an income tax.
Thus a "sin tax" on marijuana is better than a regular sales tax which is better than an income tax.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 4:46 pm to CorporateTiger
I'm willing to give Sessions a chance and see what he says on this topic because it will surely come up in confirmation hearings and if he can't give a satisfactory answer, I will wholeheartedly support Rand and democrats filibustering him.
Lowest acceptable answer he could give would be promise to leave weed and CAF alone under the guise of states rights. That's still authoritian but the movement nation wide is against him so there's that.
Lowest acceptable answer he could give would be promise to leave weed and CAF alone under the guise of states rights. That's still authoritian but the movement nation wide is against him so there's that.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 4:49 pm to Sentrius
I suspect he'll leave it up to the states. Trump doesn't seem to be a big anti-marijuana guy.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 4:50 pm to Sentrius
I mean there is always a chance he surprises me, but my expectations aren't high.
It is just crazy to me that so many people seem to think this is a good pick for some reason.
It is just crazy to me that so many people seem to think this is a good pick for some reason.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 4:52 pm to CorporateTiger
How much more is the sin tax vs the sales tax? That's all I was asking. And ultimately I was pointing out that I'm dubious about all the predicted budget benefits of legalized weed.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 4:53 pm to goldennugget
Laws should be more relaxed. Shouldn't be a schedule 1.
Usually their stance reflects how uptight their arse is.
Usually their stance reflects how uptight their arse is.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 4:54 pm to goldennugget
Because it indicates a conflict of interest to big pharma/lobbyists & signals ignoring those dealing with chronic pain management.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 4:58 pm to Jake88
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How much more is the sin tax vs the sales tax? That's all I was asking. And ultimately I was pointing out that I'm dubious about all the predicted budget benefits of legalized weed.
I am not sure what the actual breakdown is, but in Adams Co. mary jane is taxed at 24%. sounds crazy but you can still walk out at a cheaper rate than the people i got it from on back home in Bham.
ETA: that 24% is also why i voted against the tax raise on MJ. Its not that i dont want to pay more it is the fact that not all of the money is going where they said ti would go. they need tighter regulations on how that revenue is spent and then and only then would i consider voting yes on a tax increase.
This post was edited on 11/18/16 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 11/18/16 at 5:02 pm to CorporateTiger
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It is just crazy to me that so many people seem to think this is a good pick for some reason.
Stick around this board a bit longer, and you'll start to understand it.
Whatever your guy does is good, because he's your guy.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 5:11 pm to CorporateTiger
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Drug criminalization and the WOD are issues that every small government conservative should be against. These are programs that the government could implement relatively easily, thereby reducing spending and increasing personal liberty.
While it ultimately doesn't have a big impact on me, I want politicians that support small government. If you are against this quintessential small government decision then you are unlikely to support other small government policies.
Additionally the primary support for marijuana criminality these days is lobbyists who represent LEOs, for-profit prisons, and pharmaceutical companies. If you want to "drain the swamp" then removing anyone who is supported by those lobbies is a good place to start.
Couldn't have said it any better. If you aren't fighting against the WOD, you aren't a small government conservative.
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