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Why not turn the Rio Grande into an obstruction? RGVA
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:02 am
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:02 am
After all the threads about putting solar panels on The Wall,it got me to thinking: Why not do to The Rio Grande,what The TVA did with The Tennessee River? It could hugely benefit both sides of the river.Maybe form a partnership with Mexico,where they provide lots of not so technical labor,and materials such as concrete,rock,etc..
A chain of huge lakes and deep river channel,with lots of power from Hydro electric dams,could transform that area.It would also be easier to patrol for illegal crossings.Hell,you could fill it with crocs and piranha.
A chain of huge lakes and deep river channel,with lots of power from Hydro electric dams,could transform that area.It would also be easier to patrol for illegal crossings.Hell,you could fill it with crocs and piranha.
This post was edited on 7/22/17 at 7:51 am
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Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:06 am to auggie
Is there enough water?
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:09 am to auggie
Or we could simply enforce existing laws and fine the hell out of employers who hire illegal aliens; removing the incentive for coming to the US in the first place......but hey....lets spend tens of billions of dollars on something that won't work.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:24 am to baybeefeetz
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Is there enough water?
I think there probably is,and it also has a lot of elevation drop,which works well for building hydro electric dams.
People now,don't realize how shallow of a river that most of the Tennessee was before TVA did their thing,many places you could wade right across. Lots of rapids and waterfalls.
If You read" The Life And Times Of Davy Crockett", He tells about being with General Jackson's Army,in The War Of 1812/Creek War.
They were wading their horses across the river at Muscle Shoals,but most of the horses got their hooves caught in the cracks in the rocks and couldn't be dislodged. They butchered the horses right there in the river for meat.
I have made 2 dives there,and can say for a fact,the cracks in those rocks have a lot of bones. I can't say if they are from Jackson's Horses.
This post was edited on 7/22/17 at 8:12 am
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:28 am to a want
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Or we could simply enforce existing laws and fine the hell out of employers who hire illegal aliens; removing the incentive for coming to the US in the first place......but hey....lets spend tens of billions of dollars on something that won't work.
Would you consider The money spent through the TVA to have been a waste?
I can tell you right now,patrolling big flat bodies of water,will work better than patrolling the scrubbush and ravines that are along that part of the border.
I do definitely agree with you about enforcing laws already in place,and fining and charging crimes against those that hire illegals though.
Still need walls and obstructions at the borders.
" Good fences make good neighbors"
This post was edited on 7/22/17 at 7:37 am
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:33 am to auggie
They already have two large impoundments that are great, Amistad and Falcon, amazing bass fishing.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:40 am to Strannix
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They already have two large impoundments that are great, Amistad and Falcon, amazing bass fishing.
Really? I didn't even know that. Where are those dams located? And how big are the lakes?
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:50 am to a want
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ets spend tens of billions of dollars on something that won't work.
I was ready to upvote an A WANT post until you had to throw in the company line.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:57 am to auggie
The lakes are near Del Rio and Laredo.
There are treaties around the water usage from the Rio Grande. Farmers and ranchers on both sides use it for food that lands on your table. I'm all for more lakes though.
As with anything else it's better to address the demand side of the equation but your chamber of commerce has deep pockets.
There are treaties around the water usage from the Rio Grande. Farmers and ranchers on both sides use it for food that lands on your table. I'm all for more lakes though.
As with anything else it's better to address the demand side of the equation but your chamber of commerce has deep pockets.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 9:01 am to auggie
Creative thinking. 
Greens would be throwing themselves off cliffs if this were to be considered.
Greens would be throwing themselves off cliffs if this were to be considered.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 9:18 am to RCDfan1950
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RCDfan1950
Thank you very much.
It would be cool if somebody with Political ties,stole this idea and ran with it.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 9:24 am to TejasHorn
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The lakes are near Del Rio and Laredo.
The one near Laredo must be up river (or down river) a ways.
I go to Laredo a bit,the river is too small there.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 9:25 am to auggie
How about we pass draconian laws with heavy and enforced penalties when hiring illegals first.
Then better secure our borders our ports and terminals.
Then better secure our borders our ports and terminals.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 9:26 am to a want
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but hey....lets spend tens of billions of dollars on something that won't work.
Hydro is proven tech that pays for itself. Solandra (sic?) was a waste of money that didn't work.
This post was edited on 7/22/17 at 9:27 am
Posted on 7/22/17 at 9:32 am to goatmilker
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How about we pass draconian laws with heavy and enforced penalties when hiring illegals first.
Then better secure our borders our ports and terminals.
I think we can do it all at once,and influence our neighbors to the south,to get involved in something that will benefit them.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 10:13 am to a want
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lets spend tens of billions of dollars on something that won't work.
You couldn't build one dam on the Rio like the dams on the TN River for 10 billion.
In 1918 it cost 47 million to build Wilson.
However these dams pay for themselves over and over. It's an intriguing idea. Someone actually thinking outside the box for a change.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 10:20 am to a want
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Or we could simply enforce existing laws and fine the hell out of employers who hire illegal aliens; removing the incentive for coming to the US in the first place..
Great idea - this is the real answer.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 10:55 am to a want
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Or we could simply enforce existing laws and fine the hell out of employers who hire illegal aliens; removing the incentive for coming to the US in the first place......but hey....lets spend tens of billions of dollars on something that won't work.
What about the scum murderers and rapists that come in illegally?
Posted on 7/22/17 at 11:02 am to ChineseBandit58
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Or we could simply enforce existing laws and fine the hell out of employers who hire illegal aliens; removing the incentive for coming to the US in the first place..
Great idea - this is the real answer.
Don't bother the cuck snowflakes with logic, it'll destroy their fantasy.
YOUR right, the trick is not to block. That's a knee jerk attempt to react to an ongoing situation, next best would be to nip it in the bud, and far mo-better to erase the reason for them to illegally come.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 11:40 am to MrLarson
The Tennessee River - Discharge: 70,576 ft³/s (1,998 m³/s)
The Rio Grande - Discharge: 2,403 ft³/s (68.05 m³/s)
Besides there being an order of magnitude in difference, diversions for municipal and agricultural use already claim some 95 percent of the Rio Grande’s average annual flow, and there's some mighty strong historical resistance from downstream business, communities, and environmental groups... this is a long sought, long fought, and hardly 1st time thought.
The Rio Grande - Discharge: 2,403 ft³/s (68.05 m³/s)
Besides there being an order of magnitude in difference, diversions for municipal and agricultural use already claim some 95 percent of the Rio Grande’s average annual flow, and there's some mighty strong historical resistance from downstream business, communities, and environmental groups... this is a long sought, long fought, and hardly 1st time thought.
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