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re: Why is Taylor Swift considered a positive role model for young girls?

Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:36 am to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:36 am to
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Absolutely. Its pure shite. Pop aficionados have poor taste.


You're a pop aficionado too. You just don't listen to anything made after 1975.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:38 am to
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modern militant left-wing feminists

None of those adjectives describe Taylor Swift's music. It's not "modern", it's tired and formulaic and not as good as Britney Spears and Kelly Clarkson's music from 15 years ago. Nothing militant or "left wing" in her songs whatsoever. And most definitely they're not feminist: in fact they seem to accent powerlessness and female vulnerability-- in no way "feminist", unless that's the New Feminism.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26452 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:55 am to
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Some of it is pretty catchy

I agree. Some of it is memorable and actually pop music you want to hear.

But most of it, like "The Story Of Me" and "Rooting For The Antihero", is unadulterated dreck. And those songs end up getting to #1 on the Billboard chart.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:42 am to
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Some fan chants are just an emphasis on popular lyrics. This is when you’ll notice fans will scream-sing the lyrics a little louder than the rest of the song. If you’d like to partake, there is one line in Swift’s 10-minute version of “All Too Well” that is beloved. It’s when she says, “F*ck the patriarchy” — obviously.

Lyrics: “And you were tossing me the car keys...”

Fan Chant: "F*ck the patriarchy!"


Still looking for an example.

Unless you're trying to claim that disliking the patriarchy is a left wing ideal. That wont go well for you
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:43 am to
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Watch the calm down mv.


Since you've already done us solid of watching it, why not just describe the lyrics in which she's singing about propaganda?

Post a link. Literally anything. Do me a solid and keep my ears from the pop music.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:46 am to
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I realize I am coming off as the out of touch prude


Have you ever considered the possibility that you're coming off this way because you ARE out of touch?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21896 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:56 am to
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Unless you're trying to claim that disliking the patriarchy is a left wing ideal.


"Hur hur, unless you're trying to claim allowing women to go into women's lockerrooms is a left wing ideal."

Stop being dense. Definitions matter.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21896 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:57 am to
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Have you ever considered the possibility that you're coming off this way because you ARE out of touch?


No doubt to the people who think you can self identify as a cat or dog he is an out of touch prude. But that doesn't say much.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21896 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:58 am to
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Since you've already done us solid of watching it, why not just describe the lyrics in which she's singing about propaganda?


If I were discussing the lyrics I'd have just mentioned the song. It's the visuals of the video.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:59 am to
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No doubt to the people who think you can self identify as a cat or dog he is an out of touch prude.


Again you're talking about the perception rather than actually BEING out of touch.

I can ask you the same questions. Have you ever really stopped to consider the possibility that you're not just being perceived as out of touch, but that you actually are?
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 11:00 am to
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If I were discussing the lyrics


You're misunderstanding.

WE were discussing the lyrics.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 11:03 am to
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Definitions matter.


Which is why it's such a shame that you don't know them.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21896 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 11:07 am to
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You're misunderstanding.

WE were discussing the lyrics.


"and then one day randomly started spouting left wing propaganda."

That was the comment you replied to that I replied too.

Imagery on a music video speaks to what the song is about.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21896 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 11:08 am to
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Which is why it's such a shame that you don't know them.



This will be fun. Define the patriarchy.
Posted by FriscoTiger1973
Frisco, Texas
Member since Jan 2012
1414 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 11:33 am to
This has to be sarcasm, you can’t be that stupid.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58316 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 11:58 am to
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Ah, the "Christian" has weighed in on things.



Would you prefer the word, harlot instead? I’m not judging her lifestyle as an individual, but simply saying she’s a poor role model.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59371 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 12:18 pm to
I’d prefer you to practice what you preach, but what do I know?

How is she a harlot?
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58316 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 12:27 pm to
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How is she a harlot?


Single women who have sex with multiple men and jump from one relationship to another are skanks. Men that do this are whoremongers.
I don’t understand why me pointing out the obvious irks you.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59371 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:01 pm to
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Single women who have sex with multiple men and jump from one relationship to another are skanks. Men that do this are whoremongers.
I don’t understand why me pointing out the obvious irks you.


Doesn't "irk" me that you're a judgmental person. I bet your church has quite a few harlots too though. A ton of churches try to push men to wife up those single moms.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58316 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:12 pm to
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Doesn't "irk" me that you're a judgmental person. I bet your church has quite a few harlots too though. A ton of churches try to push men to wife up those single moms.



People make judgments every day. This is part of life. If you saw a person coming down the road and he looked dangerous and was wielding a weapon, you’d probably make a quick judgment to avoid him.
Similarly, me making a judgment based on her obvious public relationships and bed hopping is simply common sense. When Jesus talks about judging people, he’s talking about judging their enteral state based on outward behaviors.
I’m not doing that.
Right after the” judge not lest ye be judged” verse that all non-believers try and throw in Christian’s faces, Jesus said this;

Luke 6:43
43 ¶ “For no good tree bears bad fruit, nor again does a bad tree bear good fruit,
44 for each tree is known by its own fruit. For figs are not gathered from thornbushes, nor are grapes picked from a bramble bush.
45 The good person out of the good treasure of his heart produces good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure produces evil, for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks

It’s clear from this that we can make judgements about a person based on behaviors
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 1:34 pm
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