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Why is our healthcare debate molded around damn Medicaid?
Posted on 6/29/17 at 6:56 am
Posted on 6/29/17 at 6:56 am
Someone please explain to me why the damn takers are always given priority over the givers?
I get the pre-existing thing. High risk pools, problem solved.
It's the damn freeloaders that legislators are catering to at the expense of the middle class and taxpayers and it's pissing me the hell off.
The overwhelming majority of Americans aren't on Medicaid, why the hell are they given so much priority?
I get the pre-existing thing. High risk pools, problem solved.
It's the damn freeloaders that legislators are catering to at the expense of the middle class and taxpayers and it's pissing me the hell off.
The overwhelming majority of Americans aren't on Medicaid, why the hell are they given so much priority?
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 6:58 am to bamarep
Honestly? Medicaid is the backdoor to single payer. Medicaid expansion is clearly the most important domestic priority to the Dems from a policy standpoint, possibly excepting open borders.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 7:07 am to bamarep
it stems from the fallacy that healthcare is a 'right'
Posted on 6/29/17 at 7:10 am to bamarep
Well for one, we have an aging population. Many elderly people are in nursing homes. Medicare doesn't cover nursing home. Most people pay out of pocket until personal assets are depleted. Then they go on Medicaid because they have no ability to pay. Lots of people have no family or no family capable/willing to take care of grandma. Nursing homes cost like 60k per year. What do we do with those people? Should these takers have a safety net?
Posted on 6/29/17 at 7:23 am to PDXDawg
My Viva health coverage shouldn't have Jack shite to do with Medicaid and shouldn't be priced that way.
I already pay fricking taxes to help pay for Medicaid and Medicare.
What? I gotta pay twice now?
There's no justification for what they're trying to do. NONE!
I already pay fricking taxes to help pay for Medicaid and Medicare.
What? I gotta pay twice now?
There's no justification for what they're trying to do. NONE!
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 7:36 am
Posted on 6/29/17 at 7:30 am to PDXDawg
The aging backbones of our country who are middleclass and "givers" deserve a safety net. That safety net was earned. If you dont contribute to society although able that is a diferent story. Compassion is a great trait to have as a nation. We dont have the right motivation in our system to push the takers out of that status.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 7:33 am to AlceeFortier
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middleclass and "givers" deserve a safety net.
is this a defense of boomers?
they 'gave' the country $20 Trillion in debt
Posted on 6/29/17 at 7:34 am to bamarep
Someone needs to educate themselves on who actually makes up the Medicaid population. Are there "freeloaders" in the system? Sure, but not at the rate you want to imply. Around half are children. Around 20% are disabled. And around 20% work but either don't make enough for health insurance, or their employer doesn't offer them health insurance.
Should we work to curtail the abuse by freeloaders? Sure, but not by castigating the entire Medicaid recipient population.
Should we work to curtail the abuse by freeloaders? Sure, but not by castigating the entire Medicaid recipient population.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 7:39 am to bamarep
No one in this country had ever been denied critical necessary medical treatment. the politicians are using "healthcare" as a disguise for "Insurance" claiming everyone has a right to insurance. Who benefits from million of more people paying into the insurance programs? Who benefits from insurance providers being allowed to exponentially raise premiums? Who benefits from insurance providers being allowed to discontinue low and affordable deductibles in favor of ridiculously high deductibles? Who benefits from forcing patients to reach 100% of their out of pocket deductible before receiving any benefit from the insurance policy that is purchased?
You can figure it out.
Now who benefits from funneling billions perhaps trillions of dollars into the insurance industry while at the same time reducing the amount of money they are liable to spend?
Give you a hint, they make their living in a place that rhymes with smoshington...
People are not asking the right questions and are getting caught up in fighting over the straw-men those controlling the scene are putting in front of them.
You can figure it out.
Now who benefits from funneling billions perhaps trillions of dollars into the insurance industry while at the same time reducing the amount of money they are liable to spend?
Give you a hint, they make their living in a place that rhymes with smoshington...
People are not asking the right questions and are getting caught up in fighting over the straw-men those controlling the scene are putting in front of them.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 7:40 am to The Spleen
I get that Spleen. We pay taxes for that already.
My healthcare costs shouldn't also go up because legislators aren't responsible stewards with our money.
My healthcare costs shouldn't also go up because legislators aren't responsible stewards with our money.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 7:42 am to The Spleen
Children who have parents that should provide for them.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 7:46 am to bamarep
quote:Muh MAGA!
Why is our healthcare debate molded around damn Medicaid?
Someone please explain to me why the damn takers are always given priority over the givers?
I get the pre-existing thing. High risk pools, problem solved.
It's the damn freeloaders that legislators are catering to at the expense of the middle class and taxpayers and it's pissing me the hell off.
The overwhelming majority of Americans aren't on Medicaid, why the hell are they given so much priority?
Posted on 6/29/17 at 7:50 am to The Spleen
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Around half are children.
Not my problem.
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Around 20% are disabled.
Also not my problem.
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And around 20% work but either don't make enough for health insurance, or their employer doesn't offer them health insurance.
Guess what? Still not my problem.
ETA: Before the "emergency room" thing gets tossed in, repeal EMTALA. They're not my problem either.
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 7:51 am
Posted on 6/29/17 at 7:51 am to bamarep
Producers, Moochers and Looters.
I don't smoke, but I'd gladly carry a pack of those cigarettes with the gold Dollar sign on them wherever I go.
I don't smoke, but I'd gladly carry a pack of those cigarettes with the gold Dollar sign on them wherever I go.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 7:54 am to TrueTiger
We allowed that monster to be created. There is no easy fix.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 7:56 am to TrueTiger
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it stems from the fallacy that healthcare is a 'right'
This.
Government shouldn't be in healthcare to begin with except as a watchdog for predatory pricing and collusion.
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 7:56 am
Posted on 6/29/17 at 7:58 am to bamarep
Medicaid is abused to point of tragedy. Time to refresh healthcare.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:17 am to Centinel
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Not my problem.
Not your problem is correct. Unfortunately, the issue is the government's problem. They are trying to make fortune off of this insurance distribution of wealth (let's face it, that is the end goal). It angers me that this is at the expense of the middle class completely.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:19 am to bamarep
Medicaid is now the single biggest provider of health insurance in the country. Although it was created as a poverty safety-net program, as employer-based insurance rates have declined and wages have stagnated, medical costs have continued climbing at rates higher than general inflation. This had led to it becoming a major insurance among many lower-middle class folks too.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:21 am to TigerDoc
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Medicaid is now the single biggest provider of health insurance in the country.
It's not health insurance. It's welfare.
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